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AlexanderDantes
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02 Sep 2014, 2:37 pm

Gold digger caught on camera, how does it make you feel guys? Are the current generation of women really more celebrity and material obsessed or is it just this one individual?

http://youtu.be/Ve46peMWU5w



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02 Sep 2014, 3:11 pm

I doubt the current generation of women are all that way (rarely are all of any group exactly the same), but I was married to a male gold-digger for almost a decade. He started dating me because I had a nice house, married me because he thought I was rich, then dumped me once he'd managed to spend us both almost to bankruptcy.

FWIW, I did not know this was his motivation when I agreed to date/marry him, but once the money got scarce, it became quite obvious. He essentially pretended to be someone he was not, and managed to fool me quite effectively. I'll never go out with another "sales professional," I can tell you that much!



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02 Sep 2014, 3:30 pm

I'd rather make my own money than be a gold digger. I'm too proud to be a gold digger. Besides, I have more sense than to dress like a hooker, which is probably what she is.


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02 Sep 2014, 3:39 pm

AlexanderDantes wrote:
Are the current generation of women really more celebrity and material obsessed or is it just this one individual?



Well people in general are more selfish and shallow than they used to be, so many women are no doubt gold diggers that may not have been ones if they were around the same age in a previous era. That could actually work in an ugly-guy's favor though if he's well off.



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02 Sep 2014, 3:48 pm

I probably should have been a gold digger to ease my anxiety so I wouldn't have financial stress. Too late now.


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02 Sep 2014, 3:48 pm

I think that's a massive, massive generalisation, and a harmful one. There are around 7 billion people on this planet, approximately half of which are female, and you're trying to take one woman and use her to suggest that her behaviour is a reflection of the female population in general? In addition to that, you omit to mention anything at all about the possibility that the reverse could take place, with male 'gold-diggers' exploiting women for their money - which presents the idea of gold-digging as a purely female phenomenon, and seems sexist to me - or anything about the same in same-sex relationships.


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02 Sep 2014, 3:57 pm

Marrying for money, whether male or female is nothing new. It is well documented and stretches back thru-out recorded history. In ages past when life was more difficult and survival based in general, it was seen as a practical approach and almost systematic in many cultures. It even survives today in some places.

In the high middle ages when the courtly/chivalric concept of love became a popular motif in story and song it nearly always was adulterous in nature. That was because it was almost assumed that no one had married for love, but it had been done for political or financial reasons and mostly arranged by others.



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02 Sep 2014, 4:01 pm

I recently heard a conversation that made me laugh.

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Couple finds out cost of something they want, and it's waaaaay out of their reach.

Woman: "I knew I should have married rich."

Man: "I knew I should have married nice."
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My mom used to always tell me it was just as easy to love a rich man as it was to love a poor one. As it turned out, the rich men I've met over the course of my life were all a$$holes, so first of all, she was wrong. Secondly, she was of one of the last generations where "decent" women *never* worked outside the home, so her only options were to either live with her parents all her life and never marry, or marry someone and be a housewife/mother. In other words, be dependent on someone else your entire life.

Luckily, I didn't listen to my mom much, so I chose to earn my own money and be dependent on no one.



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02 Sep 2014, 4:01 pm

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I think that's a massive, massive generalisation, and a harmful one. There are around 7 billion people on this planet, approximately half of which are female, and you're trying to take one woman and use her to suggest that her behaviour is a reflection of the female population in general? In addition to that, you omit to mention anything at all about the possibility that the reverse could take place, with male 'gold-diggers' exploiting women for their money - which presents the idea of gold-digging as a purely female phenomenon, and seems sexist to me - or anything about the same in same-sex relationships.


Well there is another thread stating that many men are rapists and that the majority of rape is committed by men, is it any different from that? There's a difference between wanting a provider and wanting celebrity status, attention and a Maserati.



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02 Sep 2014, 4:07 pm

AlexanderDantes wrote:
Gold digger caught on camera, how does it make you feel guys? Are the current generation of women really more celebrity and material obsessed or is it just this one individual?

http://youtu.be/Ve46peMWU5w

Here's another one like that:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iyeUcFKRv4[/youtube]

I've been in and out of the dating scene for over 40 years and, yes, this is an accurate description of women nowadays. Those who flirt with me don't do it because of my education. Older ones just want to top off their retirement accounts and younger ones are often interested in having a kid and a means to finance it.



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02 Sep 2014, 4:08 pm

AlexanderDantes wrote:
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I think that's a massive, massive generalisation, and a harmful one. There are around 7 billion people on this planet, approximately half of which are female, and you're trying to take one woman and use her to suggest that her behaviour is a reflection of the female population in general? In addition to that, you omit to mention anything at all about the possibility that the reverse could take place, with male 'gold-diggers' exploiting women for their money - which presents the idea of gold-digging as a purely female phenomenon, and seems sexist to me - or anything about the same in same-sex relationships.


Well there is another thread stating that many men are rapists and that the majority of rape is committed by men, is it any different from that? There's a difference between wanting a provider and wanting celebrity status, attention and a Maserati.


Reference, please? I know of no thread stating that "many men are rapists," although it is a fact that the overwhelming majority of reported rapes (and other sexual assaults) are committed by men. I myself have posted links to that information.

Why don't we try something different and argue about ageism instead of sexism for a change? Here, I'll start. :lol:

I do see evidence that the current generation (male and female) suffers from entitlement issues. For men, that could manifest as "I deserve to get laid" and for women as "I deserve to be a pampered princess."



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02 Sep 2014, 4:14 pm

When I was young the saying 'Marry a Doctor!' was thrown around a lot, though usually in gest. But during the first Arab Oil Embargo when Oil Companies made out like bandits the joke became 'Marry a Gas Station Owner!'.



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02 Sep 2014, 4:16 pm

Eureka13 wrote:
AlexanderDantes wrote:
LookingLost wrote:
I think that's a massive, massive generalisation, and a harmful one. There are around 7 billion people on this planet, approximately half of which are female, and you're trying to take one woman and use her to suggest that her behaviour is a reflection of the female population in general? In addition to that, you omit to mention anything at all about the possibility that the reverse could take place, with male 'gold-diggers' exploiting women for their money - which presents the idea of gold-digging as a purely female phenomenon, and seems sexist to me - or anything about the same in same-sex relationships.


Well there is another thread stating that many men are rapists and that the majority of rape is committed by men, is it any different from that? There's a difference between wanting a provider and wanting celebrity status, attention and a Maserati.


Reference, please? I know of no thread stating that "many men are rapists," although it is a fact that the overwhelming majority of reported rapes (and other sexual assaults) are committed by men. I myself have posted links to that information.

Why don't we try something different and argue about ageism instead of sexism for a change? Here, I'll start. :lol:

I do see evidence that the current generation (male and female) suffers from entitlement issues. For men, that could manifest as "I deserve to get laid" and for women as "I deserve to be a pampered princess."


My point is, people highlight male rapists like female gold diggers, they see what they want to see to justify their hatred or sexism instead of accepting every factor.

So you're saying the problems will be fixed if women put out more and stop reading romantic novels or watching Disney films?



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02 Sep 2014, 4:20 pm

That's also a good point, have men been sexualised by popular culture to believe that women are sexual objects and they should be having sex with tons of beautiful women?



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02 Sep 2014, 4:26 pm

I always say this, but why concern yourself with shallow people? Let them get on with their gold digging. Instead spend time with some none gold digging people. A lot of folks out there are just regular joes who care more about friends and family and having enough to pay for a roof over their heads and a little left over to share than getting rich.

Don't let a minority of people incense you. There have always been shallow people. Just ignore them.



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02 Sep 2014, 4:34 pm

AlexanderDantes wrote:
Gold digger caught on camera, how does it make you feel guys? Are the current generation of women really more celebrity and material obsessed or is it just this one individual?

http://youtu.be/Ve46peMWU5w


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