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17 Sep 2014, 7:17 pm

Tonight, I got the flu and pneumonia vaccines, both 100% covered by insurance. I did this because I understand the importance of herd immunity. I know that if I catch the flu or pneumonia, my body'd probably be able to fight it off no problem, but I'd still be contagious and someone who is more immuno-compromised, like the very young, the very old, or those with conditions like HIV, might catch it and they might not be able to fight it off. Because of this, I knew that getting these vaccines was the right thing to do.


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18 Sep 2014, 9:16 am

Good. My wife refuses so I, similar to yourself, do not.



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19 Sep 2014, 5:52 am

I don't rush to get vaccinations because I don't trust what gets put into them. If I was to go get shots for anything, I would do my research, and if I have concerns about what's in it, make sure what I get doesn't have the additives to which I have objections.

I don't see a problem with vaccinations per se, but there seems to be an ulterior motive to rush new ones to market (which we lived without for decades) and to push ones that (at best) MIGHT protect you.



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19 Sep 2014, 6:23 am

zer0netgain wrote:
I don't rush to get vaccinations because I don't trust what gets put into them. If I was to go get shots for anything, I would do my research, and if I have concerns about what's in it, make sure what I get doesn't have the additives to which I have objections.

I don't see a problem with vaccinations per se, but there seems to be an ulterior motive to rush new ones to market (which we lived without for decades) and to push ones that (at best) MIGHT protect you.


The two vaccinations I got were for diseases that kill thousands or tens of thousands every year (don't remember the exact figures). I know I could probably fight such diseases off if I caught them, but because I'd still be contagious for a time, I could put someone with a weak immune system in danger of catching a deadly disease. That is why I went and got the vaccinations. With these vaccinations, there's a really good chance that my body could fight off any of those diseases before reaching the contagious stage (i.e. I would have protective immunity).


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19 Sep 2014, 7:46 am

zer0netgain wrote:
I don't rush to get vaccinations because I don't trust what gets put into them. If I was to go get shots for anything, I would do my research, and if I have concerns about what's in it, make sure what I get doesn't have the additives to which I have objections.

I don't see a problem with vaccinations per se, but there seems to be an ulterior motive to rush new ones to market (which we lived without for decades) and to push ones that (at best) MIGHT protect you.


I've been vaccinated for just about everything that a vaccine exists for, including anthrax. The only sick days I take are due to my epilepsy.

We also lived without blood pressure medication for a long time; should people refuse to take it because it is pushed and only might protect you?


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19 Sep 2014, 5:55 pm

Politicization of vaccinations? I didn't know facts were political in nature.

zer0netgain wrote:
I don't rush to get vaccinations because I don't trust what gets put into them.


Such as?

FFS, at the very least, vaccinate your children if you have them. I'm honestly tired of hearing about this manufactured "controversy".



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19 Sep 2014, 7:27 pm

zer0netgain wrote:
I don't rush to get vaccinations because I don't trust what gets put into them. If I was to go get shots for anything, I would do my research, and if I have concerns about what's in it, make sure what I get doesn't have the additives to which I have objections.

I don't see a problem with vaccinations per se, but there seems to be an ulterior motive to rush new ones to market (which we lived without for decades) and to push ones that (at best) MIGHT protect you.

Who rushes vaccines to market? Many drugs take a very long time to develop. There are some things that have to be done on an accelerated timetable such as 'flu. However the processes and protocols are well established and must be followed. 'Flu as an example kills, unneeded delays costs lives.

Most anti vax properganda is simply lies to be blunt. The tell you that vaccines don't work and with the next breath advocate homeopathy.

I agree with researching any drug that goes into your body, but you have to be careful where you get your information from. If for example you dig Into many of the anti Vax 'experts' they often aren't even qualified in the subject area and are discredited by their peers, some of them don't even have real qualifications and many do their own lines in alternative treatments and products. As you mention ulterior motives.



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20 Sep 2014, 8:57 pm

I'm not vaccinated against anything, because I had allergies to the vaccines as a child, so I never had the shots. I think I've had a flu shot once in my life, but I just basically rely on my immune system to handle it. I don't usually get the flu anyway. My oldest daughter had a reaction to the pertussis vaccine and the dr said not to give it to her again, nor any of her siblings, in case they had or would develop an allergy to it, so none of them are immune to that. Then again, it's not very common and there is a medical reason not to get it.


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21 Sep 2014, 1:49 am

OliveOilMom wrote:
I'm not vaccinated against anything, because I had allergies to the vaccines as a child, so I never had the shots. I think I've had a flu shot once in my life, but I just basically rely on my immune system to handle it. I don't usually get the flu anyway. My oldest daughter had a reaction to the pertussis vaccine and the dr said not to give it to her again, nor any of her siblings, in case they had or would develop an allergy to it, so none of them are immune to that. Then again, it's not very common and there is a medical reason not to get it.


That emphasizes the importance of herd immunity, where everyone who can get the vaccine does, which greatly decreases the risk of contact for those who cannot.


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21 Sep 2014, 11:00 pm

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http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/dear-parents-you-are-being-lied


Thank you very much for the informative article. I agree, the anti-vacs side is full of crap saying the flu or childhood illnesses can't kill you.
As far as the notion of vaccines causing autism is concerned, I had already suspected my daughter was autistic even before she got her shots.


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