19 Oct 2014, 9:50 pm
Kraichgauer
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19 Oct 2014, 10:03 pm
19 Oct 2014, 10:45 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
How do you know my ideas are just canned party ideology?
Oh, please!
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Why can't I be in agreement with those ideas?
You can but they should have some kind of factual basis, not kooky panties-in-knots emotion.
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Or do you think thinking for yourself only creates conservative beliefs?
No, many conservatives as well do not think for themselves. The glassy eyed Limbaugh and Beck followers come to mind, one of which I am not.
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As for businesses moving out on the pretext of losing money because of unions, and companies existing only for making money - That is a philosophy that has left American wages stagnant, and has caused the drop in the standard of living. Real giants of capitalism, like Henry Ford, understood that paying high wages was an investment in the economy, which allowed workers to spend their disposable income, thereby fueling the economy.
1. Henry Ford is dead. Just thought you ought to know.....
2. Just about everyone I know works and makes a decent living. According to you we're all getting f****d. I see a disparity here and it is you.
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Today's corporate bosses can't see beyond their immediate greed, and thus they are dragging the country down while they live in luxury. Even the idea behind Bush's tax cuts allegedly had been about businesses reinvesting in order to grow the economy, but Bush was too naive to understand that would never happen without a means of enforcing that plan.
1. Today's corporate bosses react to investors who will buy and sell stock on a whim.
2. Today's corporate bosses have to compete in a much broader and more competitive market in order to keep their company afloat.
Kraichgauer
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19 Oct 2014, 11:19 pm
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
How do you know my ideas are just canned party ideology?
Oh, please!
Quote:
Why can't I be in agreement with those ideas?
You can but they should have some kind of factual basis, not kooky panties-in-knots emotion.
Quote:
Or do you think thinking for yourself only creates conservative beliefs?
No, many conservatives as well do not think for themselves. The glassy eyed Limbaugh and Beck followers come to mind, one of which I am not.
Quote:
As for businesses moving out on the pretext of losing money because of unions, and companies existing only for making money - That is a philosophy that has left American wages stagnant, and has caused the drop in the standard of living. Real giants of capitalism, like Henry Ford, understood that paying high wages was an investment in the economy, which allowed workers to spend their disposable income, thereby fueling the economy.
1. Henry Ford is dead. Just thought you ought to know.....
2. Just about everyone I know works and makes a decent living. According to you we're all getting f****d. I see a disparity here and it is you.
Quote:
Today's corporate bosses can't see beyond their immediate greed, and thus they are dragging the country down while they live in luxury. Even the idea behind Bush's tax cuts allegedly had been about businesses reinvesting in order to grow the economy, but Bush was too naive to understand that would never happen without a means of enforcing that plan.
1. Today's corporate bosses react to investors who will buy and sell stock on a whim.
2. Today's corporate bosses have to compete in a much broader and more competitive market in order to keep their company afloat.
But Henry Ford helped build America, which meant he also helped bring prosperity to the working class. Yes, I agree about corporate America being only interested in making money and damn all else. But that hardly means it's right, or that we should just roll over and accept it.
And despite what you might have allowed yourself to think, my ideas are mine, and if they aren't all original I at least legitimately believe in them.
And back to the hunter/gatherers - I suspect they were the prehistoric flower children of their day, running and dancing happily in the fields. It was the Neolithic farmers who brought in conservative xenophobia and class distinction.
20 Oct 2014, 10:32 am
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
How do you know my ideas are just canned party ideology?
Oh, please!
Quote:
Why can't I be in agreement with those ideas?
You can but they should have some kind of factual basis, not kooky panties-in-knots emotion.
Quote:
Or do you think thinking for yourself only creates conservative beliefs?
No, many conservatives as well do not think for themselves. The glassy eyed Limbaugh and Beck followers come to mind, one of which I am not.
Quote:
As for businesses moving out on the pretext of losing money because of unions, and companies existing only for making money - That is a philosophy that has left American wages stagnant, and has caused the drop in the standard of living. Real giants of capitalism, like Henry Ford, understood that paying high wages was an investment in the economy, which allowed workers to spend their disposable income, thereby fueling the economy.
1. Henry Ford is dead. Just thought you ought to know.....
2. Just about everyone I know works and makes a decent living. According to you we're all getting f****d. I see a disparity here and it is you.
Quote:
Today's corporate bosses can't see beyond their immediate greed, and thus they are dragging the country down while they live in luxury. Even the idea behind Bush's tax cuts allegedly had been about businesses reinvesting in order to grow the economy, but Bush was too naive to understand that would never happen without a means of enforcing that plan.
1. Today's corporate bosses react to investors who will buy and sell stock on a whim.
2. Today's corporate bosses have to compete in a much broader and more competitive market in order to keep their company afloat.
Kraichgauer wrote:
But Henry Ford helped build America, which meant he also helped bring prosperity to the working class.
Yes, I know who Henry Ford is and what his contributions were. However, we live in a different world now.
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Yes, I agree about corporate America being only interested in making money and damn all else. But that hardly means it's right, or that we should just roll over and accept it.
Duh, it's always been that way. It's just that now the market has FORCED companies to become more competitive.
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And despite what you might have allowed yourself to think, my ideas are mine, and if they aren't all original I at least legitimately believe in them.
You're ideas are too hollow and/or excessively one sided to be anything other than canned party rhetoric. I'm not the only one that notices this.
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And back to the hunter/gatherers - I suspect they were the prehistoric flower children of their day, running and dancing happily in the fields. It was the Neolithic farmers who brought in conservative xenophobia and class distinction.
Doing nothing but running and dancing happily in the fields doesnt bring home the bacon. The only reason that kind flourishes today it becayse civilisation and it's laws have found a way to legally steal from the hunter/gatherer class to feed and house the loafers.
Kraichgauer
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20 Oct 2014, 12:55 pm
Raptor wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
How do you know my ideas are just canned party ideology?
Oh, please!
Quote:
Why can't I be in agreement with those ideas?
You can but they should have some kind of factual basis, not kooky panties-in-knots emotion.
Quote:
Or do you think thinking for yourself only creates conservative beliefs?
No, many conservatives as well do not think for themselves. The glassy eyed Limbaugh and Beck followers come to mind, one of which I am not.
Quote:
As for businesses moving out on the pretext of losing money because of unions, and companies existing only for making money - That is a philosophy that has left American wages stagnant, and has caused the drop in the standard of living. Real giants of capitalism, like Henry Ford, understood that paying high wages was an investment in the economy, which allowed workers to spend their disposable income, thereby fueling the economy.
1. Henry Ford is dead. Just thought you ought to know.....
2. Just about everyone I know works and makes a decent living. According to you we're all getting f****d. I see a disparity here and it is you.
Quote:
Today's corporate bosses can't see beyond their immediate greed, and thus they are dragging the country down while they live in luxury. Even the idea behind Bush's tax cuts allegedly had been about businesses reinvesting in order to grow the economy, but Bush was too naive to understand that would never happen without a means of enforcing that plan.
1. Today's corporate bosses react to investors who will buy and sell stock on a whim.
2. Today's corporate bosses have to compete in a much broader and more competitive market in order to keep their company afloat.
Kraichgauer wrote:
But Henry Ford helped build America, which meant he also helped bring prosperity to the working class.
Yes, I know who Henry Ford is and what his contributions were. However, we live in a different world now.
Quote:
Yes, I agree about corporate America being only interested in making money and damn all else. But that hardly means it's right, or that we should just roll over and accept it.
Duh, it's always been that way. It's just that now the market has FORCED companies to become more competitive.
Quote:
And despite what you might have allowed yourself to think, my ideas are mine, and if they aren't all original I at least legitimately believe in them.
You're ideas are too hollow and/or excessively one sided to be anything other than canned party rhetoric. I'm not the only one that notices this.
Quote:
And back to the hunter/gatherers - I suspect they were the prehistoric flower children of their day, running and dancing happily in the fields. It was the Neolithic farmers who brought in conservative xenophobia and class distinction.
Doing nothing but running and dancing happily in the fields doesnt bring home the bacon. The only reason that kind flourishes today it becayse civilisation and it's laws have found a way to legally steal from the hunter/gatherer class to feed and house the loafers.
Call my ideas hollow and party rhetoric if you like, but they are what I believe in, and I'll stick to them.
And as I recall, not many posts ago, you were comparing conservatives to hunter/gatherers, now you are the Neolithic farmers. I had no idea I could sway your prejudices as such.
20 Oct 2014, 1:53 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Call my ideas hollow and party rhetoric if you like, but they are what I believe in, and I'll stick to them.
They are what they are...
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And as I recall, not many posts ago, you were comparing conservatives to hunter/gatherers, now you are the Neolithic farmers. I had no idea I could sway your prejudices as such.
You're the one that brought in neolithic farmers. I haven't said a word about them. Either hunter/gatherers or farmers are more useful than shiftless peaceniks
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20 Oct 2014, 2:40 pm
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Call my ideas hollow and party rhetoric if you like, but they are what I believe in, and I'll stick to them.
They are what they are...
Quote:
And as I recall, not many posts ago, you were comparing conservatives to hunter/gatherers, now you are the Neolithic farmers. I had no idea I could sway your prejudices as such.
You're the one that brought in neolithic farmers. I haven't said a word about them. Either hunter/gatherers or farmers are more useful than shiftless peaceniks
Those "s**tless peaceniks" can easily be farmers or hunter/gatherers.
20 Oct 2014, 3:01 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Call my ideas hollow and party rhetoric if you like, but they are what I believe in, and I'll stick to them.
They are what they are...
Quote:
And as I recall, not many posts ago, you were comparing conservatives to hunter/gatherers, now you are the Neolithic farmers. I had no idea I could sway your prejudices as such.
You're the one that brought in neolithic farmers. I haven't said a word about them. Either hunter/gatherers or farmers are more useful than shiftless peaceniks
Those "s**tless peaceniks" can easily be farmers or hunter/gatherers.
Shit-less??
Duh, learn to read why doncha.
The word is shift-less (lazy, languid, torpid, lackadaisical, etc ) and you can't be an effective hunter/gatherer/farmer if you are shift-less.
Why not just concede that you have no point to make here?
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20 Oct 2014, 4:07 pm
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Call my ideas hollow and party rhetoric if you like, but they are what I believe in, and I'll stick to them.
They are what they are...
Quote:
And as I recall, not many posts ago, you were comparing conservatives to hunter/gatherers, now you are the Neolithic farmers. I had no idea I could sway your prejudices as such.
You're the one that brought in neolithic farmers. I haven't said a word about them. Either hunter/gatherers or farmers are more useful than shiftless peaceniks
Those "s**tless peaceniks" can easily be farmers or hunter/gatherers.
Shit-less??
Duh, learn to read why doncha.
The word is shift-less (lazy, languid, torpid, lackadaisical, etc ) and you can't be an effective hunter/gatherer/farmer if you are shift-less.
Why not just concede that you have no point to make here?
I do have a point to make here. Why do you think think people who prefer not to die violently are shiftless, or s**tless?
20 Oct 2014, 4:44 pm
Kraichgauer
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20 Oct 2014, 5:51 pm
Raptor wrote:
^ Whatever.....
Enough talking in riddles is enough talking in riddles.
Enough talking in riddles is enough talking in riddles.
Aw, aren't you a fan of E. Nigma in DC comics? Any Aspie or wonder-nerd worth his or her salt knows of whom I speak
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20 Oct 2014, 9:18 pm
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20 Oct 2014, 9:27 pm
20 Oct 2014, 9:29 pm
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