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22 Oct 2014, 2:43 am

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So a Republican precinct chair made some stupid comments on a tv comedy show that represents his own personal views and you take that to represent honest Republicans?

he was not the only one. for 30 years since Ronnie raygun, statements of such were made by various republican party operatives, starting with this clown-
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBAsFwPglw[/youtube]
IOW, where there's smoke....



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22 Oct 2014, 2:45 am

voter fraud, at least in recent times [leaving out the kennedy folk] is a big fat MYTH promulgated by GOPers who don't have the common decency to admit what is already widely known, I.E. that they don't want democrats to vote. once again, that is a case of them peeing on my leg then telling me it's only raining. I will continue to use that phrase because it tells an essential ground-level truth that can't readily be communicated any other way.



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22 Oct 2014, 2:48 am

auntblabby wrote:
eric76 wrote:
So a Republican precinct chair made some stupid comments on a tv comedy show that represents his own personal views and you take that to represent honest Republicans?

he was not the only one. for 30 years since Ronnie raygun, statements of such were made by various republican party operatives, starting with this clown-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBAsFwPglw
IOW, where there's smoke....


Sounds like a nutcase to me. I'd hardly call him honest, either.



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22 Oct 2014, 2:49 am

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auntblabby wrote:
eric76 wrote:
So a Republican precinct chair made some stupid comments on a tv comedy show that represents his own personal views and you take that to represent honest Republicans?

he was not the only one. for 30 years since Ronnie raygun, statements of such were made by various republican party operatives, starting with this clown-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBAsFwPglw
IOW, where there's smoke....


Sounds like a nutcase to me. I'd hardly call him honest, either.

that doesn't matter, what DOES matter is that he is a big power in the GOP, IOW what he says, eventually goes.



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22 Oct 2014, 2:54 am

auntblabby wrote:
voter fraud, at least in recent times [leaving out the kennedy folk] is a big fat MYTH promulgated by GOPers who don't have the common decency to admit what is already widely known, I.E. that they don't want democrats to vote. once again, that is a case of them peeing on my leg then telling me it's only raining. I will continue to use that phrase because it tells an essential ground-level truth that can't readily be communicated any other way.


Just as there is no reason to believe it is as common as many Republicans claim, there is no reason to believe it to be a myth. In fact, it can be demonstrably proven to not be a myth.

For example, in the last ten years there have been a number of cases of voter fraud prosecuted in Texas. Texas is hardly the only state with voter fraud.

It does seem odd, though, that most of the perpetrators of voter fraud seem to be Democrats.



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22 Oct 2014, 3:10 am

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It does seem odd, though, that most of the perpetrators of voter fraud seem to be Democrats.

while the GOP pursues fraudulently obtained election results via legal restrictions placed upon the minority vote whose only purpose is to impeded democratic voters from casting ballots. curious that none of these things [like reduced office hours and reduced distribution of voting offices] are directed at heavily republican districts.



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22 Oct 2014, 3:23 am

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It does seem odd, though, that most of the perpetrators of voter fraud seem to be Democrats.

while the GOP pursues fraudulently obtained election results via legal restrictions placed upon the minority vote whose only purpose is to impeded democratic voters from casting ballots. curious that none of these things [like reduced office hours and reduced distribution of voting offices] are directed at heavily republican districts.


Are you trying to claim that the hours the polls are open is different depending on the makeup of the precinct?



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22 Oct 2014, 3:27 am

By the way, in my precinct, the election workers once wanted to close the polls about 1 pm instead of 7 pm.

In that case, there was only one voter in the precinct who had not voted -- he was out of town and everyone knew it. There was no possibility that he would make it back in time to vote in that election, but as long as there were any registered voters in the precinct who had not voted, they could not close early.



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22 Oct 2014, 3:29 am

I've been told that in one election back in the 50s or 60s, not a single vote from my county was included in the state totals. According to the story, whoever was supposed to call the results in simply forgot about it and went home.



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22 Oct 2014, 3:31 am

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By the way, in my precinct, the election workers once wanted to close the polls about 1 pm instead of 7 pm.

In that case, there was only one voter in the precinct who had not voted -- he was out of town and everyone knew it. There was no possibility that he would make it back in time to vote in that election, but as long as there were any registered voters in the precinct who had not voted, they could not close early.

http://www.floridaelectionlawyer.com/fe ... w-for-now/
a 2012 example but proof that there is still funny business going on in the voting districts formerly under preclearance via the voting rights act. this pops up in all the states that were so covered.



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22 Oct 2014, 3:32 am

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I've been told that in one election back in the 50s or 60s, not a single vote from my county was included in the state totals. According to the story, whoever was supposed to call the results in simply forgot about it and went home.

what state was that, if you don't mind?



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22 Oct 2014, 3:39 am

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf ... appea.html

Civil rights groups and several African-American churches sued state officials in May over a new state law eliminating "Golden Week," a week-long window when people could both register to vote and cast a ballot in Ohio, and a statewide early, in-person voting schedule that did not include Sundays. Attorneys led by the American Civil Liberties Union successfully argued in U.S. Southern District Court that the reduced number of days burdened low-income and African-American Ohioans who are more likely to take advantage of Golden Week and Sunday voting.
District Court Judge Peter C. Economus agreed, saying the shortened schedule violated the U.S. Constitution and Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act, which prohibits voting procedures that discriminate on the basis of race, color or membership in an ethnic minority group. He ruled that once Ohio granted a broad scheme of early, in-person voting, state officials could not reduce it in a way that burdened certain groups of voters.
"Early voting does not necessarily play the same role in all jurisdictions in ensuring that certain groups of voters are actually able to vote. Thus, the same law may impose a significant burden in one state and only a minimal burden in another," Circuit Court Judge Karen Nelson Moore wrote in the opinion. Judges Eric L. Clay and Damon J. Keith concurred.
State Sen. Nina Turner, a Cleveland Democrat running against Husted in November's general election, was quick to praise the ruling.
"This ruling affirms what we already know: that attempts to roll back ballot access are misguided and harm hard working Ohioans, people of color, and low income voters," Turner said in a statement. "With only days left until early voting is set to begin, I urge Secretary Husted to respect the court's ruling and work to make sure that Ohioans know when and where they can cast their ballots."



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22 Oct 2014, 4:17 am

auntblabby wrote:
eric76 wrote:
I've been told that in one election back in the 50s or 60s, not a single vote from my county was included in the state totals. According to the story, whoever was supposed to call the results in simply forgot about it and went home.

what state was that, if you don't mind?


Texas.

I suspect that they did call it in the next day or two. It doesn't seem likely that the state officials would not have noticed.



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22 Oct 2014, 4:22 am

One of the stranger election stories I've run across occurred in another state in an election for the district judge.

One local lawyer in the area was running against the existing district judge. About a month before the election, the existing district judge passed away. That left only the local lawyer in the election.

It would seem like a slam dunk for the lawyer.

The problem was that the lawyer was a wino. The other lawyers in the district began to campaign heavily on behalf of the deceased judge throughout the district and the deceased judge won. Since he had passed away, that left it to the governor of the state to appoint a replacement to be the judge until the next election. He did not appoint the wino.



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22 Oct 2014, 4:25 am

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One of the stranger election stories I've run across occurred in another state in an election for the district judge.
One local lawyer in the area was running against the existing district judge. About a month before the election, the existing district judge passed away. That left only the local lawyer in the election. It would seem like a slam dunk for the lawyer. The problem was that the lawyer was a wino. The other lawyers in the district began to campaign heavily on behalf of the deceased judge throughout the district and the deceased judge won. Since he had passed away, that left it to the governor of the state to appoint a replacement to be the judge until the next election. He did not appoint the wino.

poor wino. in any case that was a clever bit of maneuvering on the lawyers.



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22 Oct 2014, 8:48 am

I'd like to hear the GOP side of this story before I make any comment.


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