any successful relationships in which the girl initiated?

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The major thing I dislike is when the guy needs to do everything, and the girl plays hard-to-get. Those types never worked for me. So I would say both need to take some kind of initiative, but I'm fine with taking the first one as long as I don't need to do everything.

In my experience when a girl has initiated it was sadly for their own amusement and they just ended up making fun of me to some degree. Not to say I wouldn't give it a try again and it feels great whenever someone does decide to socialize with me but I will automatically be wary of whatever they do from now on.

It does work though, my only friend to have a GF and for the last 2 years it started with her initiating with him and their relationship has been going very well. To well if you ask me I miss our xbox CoD weekends don't get many now.

I've had two long-ish term relationships (2 and 3 years), the first was mostly initiated by me, the second I think was fairly mutual, a shared effort. I don't think I've ever been in a relationship where I "let" the guy do all the work. I just can't imagine behaving that way.

I wouldn't know as I never initiated one and haven't really had a long term relationship, not that I haven't wanted to....just autistic troubles with interacting with someone unless they interact first. I got on a couple free dating sites as I thought talking to people online initially would be easier, but usually before I really find anyone I want to message I usually get messaged and some people who do that interest me.

But I don't think having the female initiate things would doom the relationship to failure, and I personally do not care about society gender roles so I do not see why people should stick to them just to stick to them. If female wants to initiate interaction with a male she likes then she should if able in my opinion...what if the guy would never know she was intrested unless she initiated it? so hell they might both miss out.

Both of my long term relationships were largely initiated/pushed along by the female.

I think all the women I've "pursued" either were not interested, or lost interest waiting for me to make the moves.

I've always felt it doesn't matter who makes the first move. Generally speaking, I've made the first move in all of my (insert label here) encounters with women. Having said that, after this "first move" nonsense, it HAS to be mutual. Each person has to put forth the same amount of effort into building a relationship, if it falls short of that, one of the two has other interests.

Women don't typically make the first move because it shows desperation and it just opens the door to dating a guy who might otherwise not be interested or just realize she already likes him/open the door to misogyny ('tis my sister's words.)

From experience, I've always pursued the guy, and it has never turned out well. For three years in college I pursued the same guy relentlessly (and obsessed about him for 4 more), until i realized that he wasn't that into me and didn't understand me at all. Then I pursued a friend of a friend, until he shot me down. Then it was a coworker; then I flirted with another coworker in my own awkward way, until I realized that he was never going to make the first move because he wasn't that interested in me as a person. Maybe physically interested, but not relationship-interested. I've always been incredibly awkward in general, but I've heard that even for NT women it can be like this: if the guy doesn't pursue, he's not that interested.It sounds black and white and simplistic, but it's the truth; even though a lot of guys say that they'd like a woman to make the first move, a lot more of them don't want us to.