Is depression more common among aspies?

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I get depressed all the time and think nobody likes me or wants me around, sometimes I wonder why I was born and what my reason is to exist especially after receiving much hate and prejudice and feeling less important than others and often contemplate suicide! I am not normal or up to societies standards and am completely useless and worthless my life holds no monetary value hence I am not important! I keep living though I don't know why I just feel I have no purpose to exist but only do because people keep me from failing to exist!Why do I exist when people hate me and treat me like crap but yet keep me from terminating my own life? Is it the fact they want me to stay alive so they can torment me more or do some actually care? I always keep wondering this.

I think its a big fun game to someone the sh***y existence I have to live. just a big joke.

Well Sly, at least you don't blame yourself for all your problems the way I blame myself for all my problems. I've passed up scores of opportunities in life.

Ouch. And I was just going to say it's probably more common among anyone with significant differences.

Hey Retro...I've passed up many opportunities myself. I'm double your age.

You still have many chances at success. I think you're on the right track. I don't mean merely in an entrepreneurial sense, either. I mean in an overall sense.

Many people don't come "into their own" until they reach their 40's.

As I think of it: why don't you take a civil service test, so you could be on the list (yes, it could be some years before you're called--but at least you'll have something as backup in case other opportunities don't pan out).

Hmmm. A quick Google search on civil service test Australia reveals some interesting results. I'll read it tomorrow but I must go to bed soon.

I know I shouldn't think so negatively but I just felt a bit down because I was going over this diploma of computer systems engineering that I'll probably sign up for but a lot of it sounded like stuff I don't really get so I was wondering if I'm really smart enough or at least if I have enough prereq knowledge (although the only requirement for this course is that I be a high school graduate) and a few people said I'd need to use chemistry (I didn't do so great at chemistry).

Maybe I'll fill in the gaps as I study but then I felt like I still had too many questions like, should I do the diploma or the advanced diploma and should I study part time or full time. A lot of people have said I should study part time. I did a lot better in school when I did it part time. The counselor said she has a lower drop out rate for part time students but... somehow it just seems wrong.

Like me wanting me to do it part time is just me being lazy again. Like I don't want it to take twice as many years and I don't want to graduate in my late 30s... The employment agent says she can fix me up with a part time job... but even then, I've known people who worked part time while studying part time. Maybe I could justify starting in part time if I took the advanced diploma... and had a job. Maybe then I wouldn't feel quite as guilty about studying part time.

I went to college (Uni) while I worked full time. I obtained a 3.8 GPA. It took me 8 years.

The only way to know if you're "smart enough" is to actually take the course. Just because you know nothing about a subject at the beginning doesn't preclude you from accumulating knowledge exponentially once you get the "gist" of the course.

i know you say that thinking its good news, but to me its a death sentence. 40 is too late to do anything I want with my life. i'm not staying alive past 35.

But will you still think that way when you're 40? How much are you doing now? If you're not doing much now that can't be any worse than being 40. When you've hit rock bottom the only way to go is up right?

Well I guess that's better than not staying alive past Tuesday. Normally I think procrastination is a bad thing but in this case I'll make an exception. The longer you put it off the more chances you have to change your mind. And you don't want to do it right now? Good. Fear of death is a healthy thing, really.

Why not give him the benefit of the doubt. He has more experience of being 40 than you do... and it didn't kill him either.

What is it you want to do and why does it have to be done at a young age?

I think Sly will come around.

All he has to do is get a chef's hat, and invite a girl to a barbecue. LOL

I won't be able to have a family at 40, won't be able to go camping/hiking/backpacking. have sex all the time, be romantic, be playful, all the stuff young couples do. heck even at 26 its mostly too late as most women around here already have kids so no going anwhere without 2-4 kids. no sex no non of that.

I already tried once part of me hoped the thing would happen accidentally but no luck. i lack courage to do what is needed is all.

35 is the deadline. I put if off cause by then i won't care anymore and would have worn down the whole self presvation s**t.

he had women through out his life then married before 40. i'm worthless and doomed. can't even mannage a simple task of death.

i was more hopeful when I was 20 but here I am 6.75 years later worse off then I was then and never had a gf and women all reject me cause I'm worthless to them.

I'm pretty sure people over 40 have done all of the things you've mentioned. I know a guy who had his first kid when he was 50 (shortly after his marriage) and my grandfather hikes and goes on 12 kilometer fun runs he's 75 (actually he's fitter than most couch potato twentyagers).

Anyway, you're basing your whole life around having kids? Think how much better it would be to be part of a DINK couple. You could have a lot more disposable income with no kids around and with two incomes you could afford big house (bigger than two people need but you buy it anyway).

(OK, maybe I'm slightly biased against kids, sort of like Captain Picard).

whats DNK couple?
with all the debt I owe i'll never own a house.
no doubt a few people do but they were likely super active in their younger years. as I'm not active much now i'll be far less active later. also most women in my area already have kids but the time i'm 40 its likely 99% of them will have kids.
having a family is my life goal i've always wanted kids.

he seemed to want kids and a family but never got time to cause he was so career oriented. his dream world was him having a wife and kids. if i remember right.

DINK stands for dual income, no kids.

Yes but if you were a DINK you could pay off your debt and/or morgadte more easily due to shared living expenses.

Actually I know a few welfare DINKs who have their payment reduced to about 60% due to their shared living expenses.

In some areas women have kids after 40 so they can focus on their careers. Also who says you both have to be the same age? There are lots of couples with age discrepancy, you could be 40 and she could be 28, meaning better odds that she doesn't already have kids.

I mean, I get frustrated too when I go on dating sites and see young women with kids (why do they have to start so young)? I'd like to find a childless woman too, hopefully one willing to stay that way (in my case).

But think of how happy you could be as a DINK?.. or maybe that's just me.

Anyway you think you have it hard trying to find a woman who doesn't already have kids? Imagine how much harder it is to find a woman who doesn't have kids and doesn't ever want to have them? That's about 1% of women. Most of the women 25+ looking for a long term relationship are doing so specifically so they can have kids. A lot of the ones who don't want kids also don't want a guy, or the ones who give up motherhood for their career are career women who expect likewise from their partner and I don't yet have a career.

Come to think of it, maybe you're the right age to find a 25+ year old woman who doesn't yet kids. I mean, for the ones who don't finding a guy to have kids with is often a part of the female version of the quarter life crisis. They grow out of their phase of liking bad boys and due to their age they become desperate to find a stable guy who also wants kids and also doesn't yet have them. Trust me I've seen a 35 year old woman almost in tears because she didn't yet have kids. I couldn't work out what the big deal was but I guess not everyone is like me (one of life's most oft repeated lessons).

Yeah but Star Trek has had many writers. Remember how he was in Encounter at Farpoint? That was written a lot earlier than Generations.

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its confusing system i think it only implies to marriage. cause they could just be two roommates living together. I live with my mom and neither of ours are decreased. though maybe its people they consider couples. which seems unfair cause doesn't seem different then me living with a friend also on ssi. anyways I've never met a woman under 40 who's on ssi/ssdi/welfare. I think they are rare. certainly see there's some here but they all live in other states.



eww. also women aren't attracted to me now when i'm the same age so they definitely won't be when i'm 20 years older the them.
its a trend now lots of kids have kids in middle-highschool.




i don't think i'd be contempt not ever having kids, sure i'd have good times but it'd always be there eating at me. i'd have to watch all our friends have kids and all the amazing things that come with raising kids.

think it's more then 1% there's a few women who didn't want kids but accidentally have them. but yeah it'll get harder the old you get to find ones with none. 1% of 300 million is still a lot . theres a bit of women who want guys but don't want kids and those who want kids but not guys.

they want the perfect guy to have kids with which is how they end up upset at 35. if they wanted to just have kids they could f**k any guy til pregnant. its the wanting a "stable guy" that holds them back. I have a hard time feeling sorry for them , which i guess is kinda cold hearted, but I use to think I could make a woman very happy, be supportive and a good dad. I just lack the high paying job that women want in a "stable guy" seems they all want that upper middle class lifestyle. sadly the middle class is dying out so expecting that from an decreasing middle class size and increasing below middle class is unrealistic, but they hold out for it anyways. mean while the lower class people who match up have 1-5 kids and manage fine, sure no fancy family vacations to disneyland but ohwell.



didn't know that. but his character changes then, unless one chooses to pretend later seasons don't exist.

Down here it includes "de facto" couples and "common-law marriage". In other words it includes any couple that lives under the same roof.

As when I was living with Mum, no reduction in payment except that I wasn't getting rent relief. Actually the Australian welfaire system is kind of complicated and inconstant. I know double welfare couples who combined get less than I do.

As for women under 40 who are on welfare, I know several. The thing about living in a poor neighbhorhood is that at least everyone else here is poor too. I don't have to get income envy unless I travel out of my suburb.

However, I don't know any single women on welfare. Come to think of it, I don't know any single women at all. That makes it hard. Since both sexes exist in equal numbers there should be someone for everyone but it seems like all the girls are taken.

I was thinking more like 5 years older. Remember girls don't think the same way guys do. They don't mind having a partner slightly older than them. Maybe it's cultural, maybe it's physical or maybe it's because girls mature faster than boys so girls need to compensate.

But not for all of them, any girl smart enough to have a career is smart enough to have heard of contraceptives. That's what I don't get about unplanned parenthood, how can they not be able to use something so simple as contraceptives?

Yes and their kids will call you Uncle. You don't need to have nieces or nephews to be an uncle. Would be content to take on the avuncular role?

More like 22 million in my case
But I think neither one of us wants to leave our towns. Not me anyway, all my friends live here and it would take me ages to get a new set of friends.

No man is perfect but if they want a guy to have kids with then they find you have one less flaw than I do. At least you're actually willing to have kids with them. That gives you a bigger pool of potential partners.

That's the best thing that could happen to you. If the middle class dies women won't restrict themselves to only dating a demographic that no longer exists. If women want the best man they can find and the middle class man doesn't exist than someone else then the best man they can find won't be middle class. If the middle class is reduced to a small fraction of the population then will 100 million women try to go after 1 million men? No. The other 99 million women will go after the other 99 million men.

If the middle class disappears that would equalize you. You'll then be in the same class as everyone else. No worse than anyone else. You could be poor either way but you've got better odds if everyone else is poor.

That proves that you need not be middle class to have kids.

A bit of both. Star Trek writers often pretend earlier seasons don't exist. Some of them hadn't watched the earlier seasons. Some of the disinterested writers just saw it as another potboiler until they could get their movie script filmed.

On the other hand I think it could've been genuine character development for Picard, how he went from hating Wesley (15 in season 1 but like many child actors he was cast because he looked about 3 years younger than he was)... he went from hating Wesley to liking him while at the same time the viewers started hating him more and more. Picard also had some character development where he learns to tolerate the other kids on board (after Wil Wheaton started looking to old to fill that role).

Maybe Picard's dislike of children stemmed from his jealousy that he had none... but they sure didn't make it look that way in Generations.