Venus and Serena Called "Brothers"

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I see none of the drama that has followed the Williams sister displayed from Sloane Stephens or Zina Garrison. Neither of them have gotten caught up in ego or celebrity-dom. Neither of them, to my knowledge, have been anything but lady-like and professional. If you have not noticed racial issues surrounding Venus, Serena and Richard, then maybe you missed part of the show. For sure, there has not been so much of it since they have become superstars, but for the first 6-7 years of their career it was a perpetual sidebar to their oncourt success. Not that it is relevant to the issue at hand, but I have found their using the game as a stage to promote their fashion inclinations to be a distraction from their skill as players and also a detriment to the traditions of this beautiful sport. I felt the same way about Agassi and the circus uniforms he used to play in. I don't think hard core fans of the game are much appreciative of Serena's caboose hanging out of her shorts while she plays either. It cheapens the purity of tennis tradition. That has nothing to do with race, or the issue of this topic. I am just old school and miss real tennis, pre fiberglass, pre costumes instead of uniforms, back when the game was more about fundamental skills and less about power serves, grunting and ego.

So, to extrapolate, the Williams sisters are unlady-like. Aside from race and product endorsement/sales (which I think all pro athletes participate in) and, oh, yes, large asses, they are unladylike. Heaven's to Betsy. We're right back to the brothers comment.

If that is what you get from what I said then that is the way it is. I was only contrasting perception of the players mentioned. I think it is pretty clear in retrospect, that public opinion of the Williams sisters was ambivalent at best until they had conformed to certain undefined expectations. Until they became a bit less surely after their victories and began smiling more I think tennis fans began warming to them. I don't know how you cannot see that they displayed a degree of arrogance and seemed to have a chip on their shoulder until about their 5th year as professionals. If possible, go back and review some of their matches from say, 1990-1994 and pay attention to their demeanor during and after matches along with the general tone of commentary relating to their rise to stardom. Note the amount of attention paid to their father and his philosophy by the media. Please be objective. I can see by your age that you were approximately their age at the time and quite possibly star struck, which is understandable. If you still have trouble understanding where I am coming from there is nothing further to be said, but their is nothing racist about it.

I don't deny that they were obnoxious and disrespectful in their earlier years.



Again it's not their race or their behaviour that I am curious about, but rather the slam that they are not womanly. Or lady-like as you said.

It is worth noting that there have been a few obnoxious male players. But criticism of them does not generally question their gender.

Neither Sloane nor Garrison had the early success the Williams sisters had when they started their careers. Hence nobody is really interested in them and they have not had the attention from the media.



Part of this personality type. I've also seen plenty of girls in women's tennis who flout their looks in tight little numbers that leave very little to the imagination. Do little dances for the cameras and cavort with flamboyant personalities and celebrities outside of tennis. Your hero Chris Evert Lloyd philandering broke up a long standing marriage between Aussie golfer Greg Norman and his wife. I find that a little more offensive than Serena's "caboose".



I can give you the name of plenty of young female tennis players who grunt and groan on court, take of their clothes for men's magazines, and outifts hardly less revealing than the Williams sisters. Women's tennis has become eye candy.

Androbot01, let it go. If men want to claim arrogance and insecurity as solely their territory, let them.

As one who has lived both weak and strong in one life, the answer is obvious to me. The comment by the reporter is reflective of jealousy, nothing much more and nothing much less, as it is simply human nature to be jealous of those who are stronger, and it is more truly the strong who are more respectful of the weak, at least among healthy human beings and Bonobos, who share a similar empathy gene and brain structure that promotes human empathy. As an example I've never seen a truly powerful and strong heterosexual homophobic man yet, in real life, at least, where such things can be proven in action as is. They have no fears in their own masculinity it is a simple as that.

Jealousy is 'just' the son or daughter of fear.

And interestingly, at least to me, smiles, while my Pacific Islander mixed American Indian wife has a six-pack at the beginning of our now almost 25 year marriage, without even working out, I had to wait until just this year at age 54 for mine, after a regimen of dance walking around 2000 miles earlier this year, martial arts extreme mixed strength training with full bore kicks, and a regimen of weekly rave dancing in the wild of public dance halls to finally see some ripples of muscle in the abdominal area of my around 225 LB body, as is, again at age 54.

I also played Tennis for over a decade solid in my youth, so tennis has always been an interest of mine, and these Sisters are incredible athletic specimens for whatever sport they might choose to play. And no they aren't the steroid type of muscles one sees now through many sports, but the natural inherent strength of diversity of humanity mixing across continents.

And yes, with increased strength and self esteem, a level of cockiness naturally occurs, some folks control it better than others, and it's no different for females than males, particularly among higher testosterone folks no matter what ethnicity or gender they might be.

And yes, according to physical and evolutionary anthropology, although I have American Indian roots as well, my natural blonde hair, light blue eyes, and fair skin means one thing, and that is subcutaneous fat naturally occurring to survive the winters of the Black Forest of Germany that my great grandfather 'enjoyed' adapting to in the snow.

So yeah, I live in Florida now, so thank GOD for at least some French, Spanish, and American Indian Roots, that at least allow me to tan and protect my skin, as to avoid the pitfall of skin that will not tan and protect one in North Florida Sun.

I think human diversity is amazing and beautiful, and so are the sister's muscular buttocks that get the Tennis job done. And yeah, there are more attractive butts than others, but we all share them, and if I see them in living color and rippling muscular movement in the science and art of Tennis, it's not going to hurt my feelings at all, as I see it as TRUE NATURAL human art and never something as silly guilty pleasure.

Yeah, I would have laughed it off, as I know the source of weak men's jealousy, but I suppose those girls have never experienced weakness in their life, so they probably cannot relate to what weak men feel inside, as they watch the strong parade by.

It's just human nature, but truly with the right challenge and adaptation along with the real power of the genetics we all share and the potential of human epigenetics and neuroplasticity in both mind and physical body, the limits are smaller than the expectations for one who wants to be strong and eventually finds themselves there in strong confident self-esteemed male or female body.

Inherently human beings are warriors for protection, and to be able to adequately defend oneself is what one understands instinctually whether the cognitive abstract realm of words brings one to the truth of human nature and mother nature in general as those who adapt with strength have always been more likely to survive to reproductive age and reproduce and carry on Mother Nature's rule of strength, without moral imperatives.

I encourage everyone to train physically and be as strong as these sisters if they can in life, if not for sports for the greatest gift that Mother Nature gives us:

A body that moves freely in 360 degrees, gets us around wherever we want to go when we are tired, and moreover the emotions of the human body are housed in the body and fed through the vagal nerve that goes from head to gut instinct, and branches out all over the body.

To free one's body can also mean to free one's mind and emotions throughout one's body.

And science even shows, that folks score 10% higher on IQ tests after an exercise session, as it's all connected from head to gut instinct to buttocks to the tips of one's toes.

And I for one have always been well impressed by both the genetic gifts of these sisters, and what they achieve in both the science and art of Tennis, a hobby that kept me occupied in the free flow of physical activity throughout my middle, secondary school and early college years. And no doubt raised my standard IQ several points, as that too again, is something science shows now is true.

Not to mention emotional and physical intelligence that standard IQ tests don't touch, unfortunately, as in my opinion those are the most important of human intelligences evidenced as such among primates such as earlier human beings, well before the advent of complex written languages and cultures, which come mostly from written language, which is culturally contrived and not a part of innate human nature.

Voice currently is, but not written language that the reporters attempted to use as a silly personal attack that unfortunately seemed to have worked to some degree on the sisters, and ignoring that is in understanding human nature as well. The gift of reason is also the gift of emotion when used intelligently as such in BALANCE.