Obama admin officials call Netanyahu "Aspergy"
Tequila wrote:
Toy_Soldier wrote:
All these revelations of government officials making derogatory remarks (ie. F*** the EU) makes the US look increasingly 'tacky' for lack of a better word.
The "f*** the EU" thing went down a bomb with us anti-EU types, who have been saying the same thing for years.
The thing is it was in context to the situation in Ukraine, like the US Administration didn't care what the EU said/did. Then the Ukrainian Revolution occurred and Russia was involved and the US Administration suddenly needs the EU...
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PlainsAspie wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
It is shocking it has jumped from internet troll land into the high corridors of power. I do recall a British politician using Autistic as an insult.
As of this writing ASAN has said nothing. I hope it is because they did not hear about it. I did just emailed them about this. I hope it is not because they did not want to be associated with Israel or Aspergers. ASAN did support the DSM 5 elimination of Aspergers http://autisticadvocacy.org/wp-content/ ... _final.pdf
As of this writing ASAN has said nothing. I hope it is because they did not hear about it. I did just emailed them about this. I hope it is not because they did not want to be associated with Israel or Aspergers. ASAN did support the DSM 5 elimination of Aspergers http://autisticadvocacy.org/wp-content/ ... _final.pdf
Ari Ne'eman, the founder, is Jewish and staunchly pro-Israel. I'm positive that it's not because they don't want to be associated with Israel.
ASAN has a few virulently anti-Israel people working for it. My take is that Ari wants to have his cake (give Daily Beast an interview) and eat it too (refuse to put out an official ASAN release). To me, that's the definition of chickens**t.
It is offensive regardless of how one feels about Netanyahu. If someone called Hitler 'aspergery', I'd be offended. So, I don't think even the most ardent critics of Natanyahu are giving this a pass because of being anti-Israel.
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Toy_Soldier wrote:
Tequila wrote:
Toy_Soldier wrote:
All these revelations of government officials making derogatory remarks (ie. F*** the EU) makes the US look increasingly 'tacky' for lack of a better word.
The "f*** the EU" thing went down a bomb with us anti-EU types, who have been saying the same thing for years.
The thing is it was in context to the situation in Ukraine, like the US Administration didn't care what the EU said/did. Then the Ukrainian Revolution occurred and Russia was involved and the US Administration suddenly needs the EU...
The Victoria Nuland call was them planning the post revolution government, "**** the EU" was dismissive of the EU and was said because they weren't in lockstep with US interests in Ukraine who in their words "invested 5 billion to achieve these and other goals". The protests, coup, and war in the country were all planned out in advance by the US. People talk about Russia's involvement in the conflict but the US has been just as culpable if not more.
As for Netanyahu being called "aspergery", I doesn't surprise me as autism seems to be thrown around more and more pejoratively these days. The sad thing is that it generally comes from pretty high minded liberal people that should know better, goes to show how they really think on the inside. Wonder how they really feel about other groups of Americans, I bet it wouldn't be pretty.
Jacoby wrote:
The Victoria Nuland call was them planning the post revolution government, "**** the EU" was dismissive of the EU and was said because they weren't in lockstep with US interests in Ukraine who in their words "invested 5 billion to achieve these and other goals". The protests, coup, and war in the country were all planned out in advance by the US. People talk about Russia's involvement in the conflict but the US has been just as culpable if not more.
I respect your opinion, but don't see any point in discussing USA v Russia further. I think you have flawed sources and may be biased and you probably think the same of me. It likely is at least partially true of both. You are young and I hope you can look at it with a more objective eye, but I would not say you do that yet. But I am not young and having spent many years training to fight Russia, at times being trained to fight as a Russian, and having been on the line directly or in surrogate situations it is going to be difficult for me if not impossible to not have bias. I will say, even at the worst times I never hated or even disliked Russians. I was caught up in a contest of systems, of powers. But I did greatly dislike Russia's communist system of government. I was encouraged and hopeful after 1991 and thought we had put our greatest differences behind us, but it seems we have traveled full circle. The US has also committed errors and done wrong, but at least we still have the mechanism for change and the ability for dissenters to speak and organize. If you had anything to say I'll listen, but thought it best to discontinue the conversation in general concerning the two countries. Zombies, stuff and things is alright though.
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Toy_Soldier wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
The Victoria Nuland call was them planning the post revolution government, "**** the EU" was dismissive of the EU and was said because they weren't in lockstep with US interests in Ukraine who in their words "invested 5 billion to achieve these and other goals". The protests, coup, and war in the country were all planned out in advance by the US. People talk about Russia's involvement in the conflict but the US has been just as culpable if not more.
I respect your opinion, but don't see any point in discussing USA v Russia further. I think you have flawed sources and may be biased and you probably think the same of me. It likely is at least partially true of both. You are young and I hope you can look at it with a more objective eye, but I would not say you do that yet. But I am not young and having spent many years training to fight Russia, at times being trained to fight as a Russian, and having been on the line directly or in surrogate situations it is going to be difficult for me if not impossible to not have bias. I will say, even at the worst times I never hated or even disliked Russians. I was caught up in a contest of systems, of powers. But I did greatly dislike Russia's communist system of government. I was encouraged and hopeful after 1991 and thought we had put our greatest differences behind us, but it seems we have traveled full circle. The US has also committed errors and done wrong, but at least we still have the mechanism for change and the ability for dissenters to speak and organize. If you had anything to say I'll listen, but thought it best to discontinue the conversation in general concerning the two countries. Zombies, stuff and things is alright though.
You may have a different take on the conflict in Ukraine but I don't think I characterized it inaccurately in that post. In the context of the Nuland call, they were talking pretty explicitly about who they wanted and didn't want to be apart of the post-Yanukovych government and "**** the EU" was clearly dismissive in context of the EU not having the same interests as the US in Ukraine. I don't think it is really worth discussing whether or not the US has culpability in developing this crisis either, I think the answer is pretty obvious.
Well, we now know about Netanyahu's reply to being called "aspergy."
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PHIBETAIOTA.NET: 'Netanyahu implies threat to assassinate Obama in recent speech?' (October 31, 2014)
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2014/10/owl- ... ion-of-jfk
Given the reference to a 'grassy knoll' in a recent speech from Israel PM Netanyahu, as noted below by writer Raimondo, we hope Mr Obam?s Secret Secret security arrangements are in much better shape than they were when another head of the Secret Service was in charge up to a few weeks ago:
'The famously combative Israeli Prime Minister went on to say:
'When there are pressures on Israel to concede its security, the easiest thing to do is to concede. You get a round of applause, ceremonies on grassy knolls, and then come the missiles and the tunnels....'
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2014/10/owl- ... ion-of-jfk
Given the reference to a 'grassy knoll' in a recent speech from Israel PM Netanyahu, as noted below by writer Raimondo, we hope Mr Obam?s Secret Secret security arrangements are in much better shape than they were when another head of the Secret Service was in charge up to a few weeks ago:
'The famously combative Israeli Prime Minister went on to say:
'When there are pressures on Israel to concede its security, the easiest thing to do is to concede. You get a round of applause, ceremonies on grassy knolls, and then come the missiles and the tunnels....'
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AspieUtah wrote:
Well, we now know about Netanyahu's reply to being called "aspergy."
Quote:
PHIBETAIOTA.NET: 'Netanyahu implies threat to assassinate Obama in recent speech?' (October 31, 2014)
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2014/10/owl- ... ion-of-jfk
Given the reference to a 'grassy knoll' in a recent speech from Israel PM Netanyahu, as noted below by writer Raimondo, we hope Mr Obam?s Secret Secret security arrangements are in much better shape than they were when another head of the Secret Service was in charge up to a few weeks ago:
'The famously combative Israeli Prime Minister went on to say:
'When there are pressures on Israel to concede its security, the easiest thing to do is to concede. You get a round of applause, ceremonies on grassy knolls, and then come the missiles and the tunnels....'
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2014/10/owl- ... ion-of-jfk
Given the reference to a 'grassy knoll' in a recent speech from Israel PM Netanyahu, as noted below by writer Raimondo, we hope Mr Obam?s Secret Secret security arrangements are in much better shape than they were when another head of the Secret Service was in charge up to a few weeks ago:
'The famously combative Israeli Prime Minister went on to say:
'When there are pressures on Israel to concede its security, the easiest thing to do is to concede. You get a round of applause, ceremonies on grassy knolls, and then come the missiles and the tunnels....'
Even for a person who missies subtlety the message is pretty unmistakable and confirmed by mainstream press http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/o ... CMP=twt_gu
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Jacoby wrote:
. The sad thing is that it generally comes from pretty high minded liberal people that should know better, goes to show how they really think on the inside. Wonder how they really feel about other groups of Americans, I bet it wouldn't be pretty.
You are on to something. Some suggestions of a pattern. Autism Speaks Headquarters New York, Judge Rotenberg Center location Massachusetts, The Nazi's partially took their idea's for Eugenics from California. That state had far more forced sterilizations then any other state. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_eugenics http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/15/health/ca ... lizations/
Donald Tippett first person diagnosed with Autism was and is accepted in Mississippi, Autistic Kid named Homecoming King a couple of weeks ago in Texas.
Opposite of what you would think.
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ASPartOfMe wrote:
It was not meant s a compliment other words were used coward recalcitrant, myopic, reactionary, obtuse, blustering, pompous,
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http://www.theatlantic.com/internationa ... _page=true
Two issues here.
I do agree with generally with overall gist what was said about the Israeli Prime Minister
It's appalling that that top officials government feel free to use use Aspergers as a insult
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http://www.theatlantic.com/internationa ... _page=true
Two issues here.
I do agree with generally with overall gist what was said about the Israeli Prime Minister
It's appalling that that top officials government feel free to use use Aspergers as a insult
Relax. On of Obbama's people called Bibbi "chicken s**t?
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