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01 Nov 2014, 7:53 am

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01 Nov 2014, 7:55 am

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I agree, but the general consensus of this board (at least in the past) is that girls don't work like that. Apparently, when you meet someone new, there are two options: either you become friends or you start dating. Once you are friends, however, there is no way the girl will ever see you as boyfriend material in the future.


That's all BS. Sorry.
I don't represent every female in the world but neither does your little summary ^up^there^. The successful relationships I have always have started as friendships. The ones that were total crash and burn didn't.

My very long term relationship right now- he is my best friend and we were friends first. There is no accurate generalization, really.

It's not *my* summary, in the sense that I didn't come up with the idea. I always thought that being friends first was the most obvious way to have a good relationship...then I joined this board and everybody seemed to be saying that wasn't an option - if you didn't ask the girl out within say three weeks then she'd friendzone you.

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Yet I've asked married couples what they think and they say that in their experience the strongest marriages always came from people who were good friends first. :shrug:


*nodnodnod*

I'm glad to read that. :)



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01 Nov 2014, 8:30 am

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I have a borderline gifted level IQ and I will not settle... I'll say it again: gifted level IQ.

I sense your frustration here? But this is a problem, because it may be a reason that you feel alone. I am routinely frustrated by people who simply don't see the world as I do. I also see MANY people in this community alone who are quite obviously extremely intelligent but they don't defend their actions by stating they are borderline gifted. They don't really need to; it is clear they are highly intelligent.

That said- as I mentioned, I understand the frustration of not having people who you can connect with that maybe think in the same way you do or view the world you do or want to discuss the same things you do.

I think one of the issues is that you present that there is something inherently wrong with these women and inherently right with you. That's not the case- you are likely different kinds of people. So maybe you need to try a new arena. Stating you have a gifted IQ proves nothing except that you like to tell other people you are smart, really. It doesn't aid in communication, relationships, or understanding.

I'm just being honest here in saying it can seriously piss people off because really IQ means nothing in the real world. It's a number that you are born into and if you do nothing with it but use it to defend your personal judgement of other people, who cares?

Maybe try meetup.com or similar. Find a group that might have interests and maybe you will find someone with whom you are more compatible. Clearly the online dating thing isn't working. I know you want to vent, but you are also getting pretty insulting at this point so people aren't going to leave you alone on that simply because you are frustrated.


You claim to have understanding but your post comes across as mostly being critical of the fact that I dared to defend my own intelligence, having been dealt with by you and others as though I were an idiot. If I dare to defend myself, that's just more ammunition you can use against me, right?

Where is this understand you have of what its like not having people you can connect with? It doesn't come across in your posts.

I do appreciate that you at least tried to help in suggesting other sites I could try. But that is the minority of your post. 1 or two lines claiming to understand and try to help, and several paragraphs of criticism.

You say IQ means nothing but what about height? That's another genetically determined number, and one that women use to judge men all the time.

Height means nothing in the real would either, but to women it's deadly important. Am I not allowed to think intelligence is important in a partner? But my potential partners are allowed to judge me on my height? How is that fair?



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01 Nov 2014, 8:41 am

What do you do in life Jerry? Do you have any career?



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01 Nov 2014, 8:44 am

At work I have been interviewing job candidates for programming roles.

So I am a programmer, and one good enough to judge others. When I tell my employer, candidate x is competent, and candidate y is a no-hoper, they make important hiring decisions based on that feedback.



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01 Nov 2014, 8:52 am

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You say IQ means nothing but what about height? That's another genetically determined number, and one that women use to judge men all the time.

Height means nothing in the real would either, but to women it's deadly important. Am I not allowed to think intelligence is important in a partner? But my potential partners are allowed to judge me on my height? How is that fair?


Very good point.

Yeah I can see now, you have the total right to think intelligence is important in a partner.

And yes, you have the total right to reject a woman who has a significantly lowert IQ than yours as much how many women have the right to reject men because they are shorter than them.



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01 Nov 2014, 9:20 am

I'm not proud of this thread but it got responses and perhaps more understanding than had I posted a tame 'I'm lonely' type thread.

At least I'm trying, when I could just be on here complaining about how lonely I feel and how I'm not even trying to do anything about it.



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01 Nov 2014, 11:30 am

CrinklyCrustacean wrote:
SignOfLazarus wrote:
CrinklyCrustacean wrote:
I agree, but the general consensus of this board (at least in the past) is that girls don't work like that. Apparently, when you meet someone new, there are two options: either you become friends or you start dating. Once you are friends, however, there is no way the girl will ever see you as boyfriend material in the future.


That's all BS. Sorry.
I don't represent every female in the world but neither does your little summary ^up^there^. The successful relationships I have always have started as friendships. The ones that were total crash and burn didn't.

My very long term relationship right now- he is my best friend and we were friends first. There is no accurate generalization, really.

It's not *my* summary, in the sense that I didn't come up with the idea. I always thought that being friends first was the most obvious way to have a good relationship...then I joined this board and everybody seemed to be saying that wasn't an option - if you didn't ask the girl out within say three weeks then she'd friendzone you.


From the guy view of this, I don't think friendship is a possible route for me. I have never gotten a romantic interest in a girl that I knew a lot about beforehand. All my crushes have required that the girl be a stranger to me.



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01 Nov 2014, 11:33 am

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. . . but your post comes across as mostly being critical of the fact that I dared to defend my own intelligence, having been dealt with by you and others as though I were an idiot.

Defense of your intelligence is a reoccurring theme in this thread. I wonder why you feel the need to defend yourself. You mentioned that in your childhood you were verbally abused and called "freak," but this is in the past. You don't have to fight that fight with everyone.



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01 Nov 2014, 12:24 pm

jerry00 wrote:
At work I have been interviewing job candidates for programming roles.

So I am a programmer, and one good enough to judge others. When I tell my employer, candidate x is competent, and candidate y is a no-hoper, they make important hiring decisions based on that feedback.


Repeating over & over that you are soooo smart makes you sound uber-insecure. Super-smart people? Usually aren't.

How tall are you? How fit are you? How bald are you?

And are the women who don't return your messages approximately as "attractive" as you, going by those same measures?

Because if you're a pudgy, short, bald & super-smart 48 yr old who emails only 21 yo blonde super-hotties who are super-smart... well, that's why you're getting no replies.

(If you rewrote your profile in an attempt to not come off as an over-entitled, condescending her, it'd probably help too!!).



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01 Nov 2014, 12:48 pm

Jjancee wrote:
jerry00 wrote:
At work I have been interviewing job candidates for programming roles.

So I am a programmer, and one good enough to judge others. When I tell my employer, candidate x is competent, and candidate y is a no-hoper, they make important hiring decisions based on that feedback.


Repeating over & over that you are soooo smart makes you sound uber-insecure. Super-smart people? Usually aren't.

How tall are you? How fit are you? How bald are you?

And are the women who don't return your messages approximately as "attractive" as you, going by those same measures?

Because if you're a pudgy, short, bald & super-smart 48 yr old who emails only 21 yo blonde super-hotties who are super-smart... well, that's why you're getting no replies.

(If you rewrote your profile in an attempt to not come off as an over-entitled, condescending her, it'd probably help too!!).



lol, I had my profile reviewed on a different forum and no one who reviewed it said I came off as condescending. You haven't seen my profile, or even read this thread*, because I have addressed all of your non-points before.

The apparent joy you take in bashing me makes you come off as insecure.

*not that I would recommend reading the thread, I don't really want to. I wouldn't miss it if someone deleted it.



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01 Nov 2014, 12:55 pm

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Because if you're a pudgy, short, bald & super-smart 48 yr old who emails only 21 yo blonde super-hotties who are super-smart... well, that's why you're getting no replies.


Why all this age-fascism? Do you have a problem with age differences in relationships or what? Some 20 years ago I knew a guy in his 40s that dated a 19 yo, and they are married since long and have a couple of children.



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01 Nov 2014, 1:06 pm

Jjancee wrote:
jerry00 wrote:
At work I have been interviewing job candidates for programming roles.

So I am a programmer, and one good enough to judge others. When I tell my employer, candidate x is competent, and candidate y is a no-hoper, they make important hiring decisions based on that feedback.


Repeating over & over that you are soooo smart makes you sound uber-insecure. Super-smart people? Usually aren't.

How tall are you? How fit are you? How bald are you?

And are the women who don't return your messages approximately as "attractive" as you, going by those same measures?

Because if you're a pudgy, short, bald & super-smart 48 yr old who emails only 21 yo blonde super-hotties who are super-smart... well, that's why you're getting no replies.

(If you rewrote your profile in an attempt to not come off as an over-entitled, condescending her, it'd probably help too!!).


Heightism, ageism, baldism....all in one post lol.


Plus, why are you assuming he is any of this, and why you are assuming he's messaging only smart hot blondes?



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01 Nov 2014, 1:10 pm

rdos wrote:
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Because if you're a pudgy, short, bald & super-smart 48 yr old who emails only 21 yo blonde super-hotties who are super-smart... well, that's why you're getting no replies.


Why all this age-fascism? Do you have a problem with age differences in relationships or what? Some 20 years ago I knew a guy in his 40s that dated a 19 yo, and they are married since long and have a couple of children.


Sure, but it is NOT the norm and by far most 21 year olds would never even consider dating someone as old as their dad. Not too weird imo. Pretty easy to see why they wouldn't want to.



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01 Nov 2014, 1:26 pm

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Sure, but it is NOT the norm and by far most 21 year olds would never even consider dating someone as old as their dad.


Being neurodiverse is not the norm either.

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Not too weird imo. Pretty easy to see why they wouldn't want to.


Why is that? Because of the ageism of our culture, because they are NTs or because of what?

I think that 40+ males that seek sexual contact with teenagers are really creepy, but that doesn't apply to those that are romantically interested in this group. I think they have a right to be, and if a few females feel they want an older partner, our prejudice shouldn't stop them.



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01 Nov 2014, 1:38 pm

Jjancee wrote:
jerry00 wrote:
At work I have been interviewing job candidates for programming roles.

So I am a programmer, and one good enough to judge others. When I tell my employer, candidate x is competent, and candidate y is a no-hoper, they make important hiring decisions based on that feedback.


Repeating over & over that you are soooo smart makes you sound uber-insecure. Super-smart people? Usually aren't.

How tall are you? How fit are you? How bald are you?

And are the women who don't return your messages approximately as "attractive" as you, going by those same measures?

Because if you're a pudgy, short, bald & super-smart 48 yr old who emails only 21 yo blonde super-hotties who are super-smart... well, that's why you're getting no replies.

(If you rewrote your profile in an attempt to not come off as an over-entitled, condescending her, it'd probably help too!!).
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