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Tak
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 Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:44 am Post subject: Aspergers and societal perception in televsion. |
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I'm a big fan of the Animated Series "Futurama" I think its one of the Best TV shows I have ever seen......
But the Simpsons, with a lot of the same creative people and talent is just awful to me, I've been thinking about this off and on for the last two years, why I would feel so strongly in different directions about two shows that share so much in developent.
I realised after reading on this forum, Aspergers has a lot to do with it. The Simpsons is the nuclear family, in a suburban neigborhood, in a midwest sort of lifestyle. The sort of thing I never understood in my personal life, Futurama though, like the few other shows I like is the relationship betwen people with no connection, Working with Lobsters in your day job, realising your parents really ARE mutants, Being a thousand years older than your great to the 20th grand nephew, but being 150 years younger at the same time, a society where the more pointless rules just don't apply, and with intellegence on a thousand different forms, no constant exept change, the kind of world I'd do ANYTING to live in!
So, topic, Aspergers and societal perception in television
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AbominableSnoCone
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Tak
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:24 am Post subject: |
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| AbominableSnoCone wrote: | | Do you mean you think the Simpsons has always been awful? As opposed to just being awful since season 10 or so? (which it has been) |
I have never liked the Simpsons. I really don't give a damn about, as one cartoonist put them "The piss yellow, piss ugly, retarded monkey people"
They are not funny to me, I find their interrelations boring and tedious. : /
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Tak
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:32 am Post subject: |
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thjey took gags from all sorts of series........... and many many books, |
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ajs_line_of_silver
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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Love ur icon Tak Have u read Jonny the Homicidal maniac
I think I relate to abstrck shows like Futarama, Zim, Monty Python and soforth
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Though I appreciate the bizarre, surreal, and satirical, Futurama just doesn't work for me. It just never achieves the comic greatness of the Simpsons. It may just be because the Simpsons manages to be bizarre, surreal, and satirical just by remaining in the real world, while Futurama exploits the cliches of Science Fiction for laughs, and this runs thin after a while.
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Tak
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| ajs_line_of_silver wrote: | Love ur icon Tak Have u read Jonny the Homicidal maniac
I think I relate to abstrck shows like Futarama, Zim, Monty Python and soforth |
This is my alternate "bad mood" icon, Yes, I own the JTHM and the Squee collection. And the Zim DVD set.
I have Invader Zim personalised plates on my VW..... BUt Invader Tak I LOVED. A character I bonded with right off......... |
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Tak
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Thagomizer wrote: | | Though I appreciate the bizarre, surreal, and satirical, Futurama just doesn't work for me. It just never achieves the comic greatness of the Simpsons. It may just be because the Simpsons manages to be bizarre, surreal, and satirical just by remaining in the real world, while Futurama exploits the cliches of Science Fiction for laughs, and this runs thin after a while. |
Whereas I don't see that about the Simpsons at all. The better jokes in Futurama are intesely intellectual and most of them are completely missed by the viewers.
Fry Holding the Apple of Dischord in the card game NOBODY seemed to have noticed. Quantum physics jokes, Binary and ascii jokes. THe exeubots at Fox never appreciated what they really had. |
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Liadain
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| I'm with Thagomizer on this one. However, since I started watching South Park, The Simpsons has seemed like South Park Lite to me. It's not as funny to me as it once was, whereas South Park (and other creations by Parker and Stone) will have me in stitches on the floor. |
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I don't have pay TV, and Futurama didn't last very long on free to air...
But if you never liked the Simpsons, you have no sense of humour whatsoever! That show has something for everyone. Even most people who didn't like the show have found something funny on it. And I like a show that makes fun of eveyday people. And giving an insight into normal lives is quite helpful for people with AS.
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Tak
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| thatrsdude wrote: | I don't have pay TV, and Futurama didn't last very long on free to air...
But if you never liked the Simpsons, you have no sense of humour whatsoever! That show has something for everyone. Even most people who didn't like the show have found something funny on it. And I like a show that makes fun of eveyday people. And giving an insight into normal lives is quite helpful for people with AS. |
I have a very well developed sense of humor, but it didn't have anything for me, so it does not have something for everybody.
Everyday people are a trial and a pain to me, they make no real sense, they are ot funny or entertaining. That was the whole point.
But the blind worship of midwestern nucler family mediocrity and its value system is now the "american way"........
Wonder if Canada is taking people? |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I think Futurama will never be regarded even in the same league as the Simpsons, BUT I think Futurama will in the long run leave a better taste in viewer's mouths as it was cut off in its prime, and not allowed to start going downhill, then plummet at an astonishing rate. I agree that in the older episodes it was a lot funnier. Especially the easter egg classic references they seem to hardly do at all any more, if ever. |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Tak wrote: |
But the blind worship of midwestern nucler family mediocrity and its value system is now the "american way"........
Wonder if Canada is taking people? |
Oh you're right , we should have a loud gay "family" from san francisco with one adopted and one artificially inseminated kid in and their "value" system to "worship" and laugh at instead! That would be so much better!
LOL @ the bitterness over a straight CARTOON family being so popular! |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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I agree that The Simpsons has something to offer for everyone. I could understand why Futurama doesn't have the same kind of massive appeal, as it seems primarily targeted at sci-fi fans. Although I enjoy watching Futurama, I can't say that I get everything, simply because I'm not that into sci-fi.
That said, if you're more into surreality (is that a word?), I guess I could see why you would like Futurama more. But remember that The Simpsons is supposed to be making fun of the way things "normally" are. |
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