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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:30 pm Post subject:
ScratchMonkey wrote:
The first two items on the GOP's list (buying across state lines, allowing pool buying outside one's employer) seem pretty reasonable to me, and don't appear in the current bill. Let's get those enacted first.
These are reasonable.
Well, to WittenKitten, please help us think of a better alternative that will ensure that our health needs will be covered while America will still be fiscally sustainable. _________________ Ex amicitia vita
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:51 pm Post subject:
ruennsheng wrote:
I understand that the job problem is more important than the healthcare problem. However, the healthcare blues that America has now will exacerbate FUTURE job woes and threaten American economic competitiveness, because if we do not rein in healthcare costs now, I can envision a future of America falling the way Soviet Union did in the 80's --- structural fiscal problems that prevented it from supporting either the economy or the military --- against a not-so burdened country called C****.
And in addition, much as I loathe the mess in the current Democratic adminstration, I think the prevailing alternative --- that is, no healthcare reforms --- is actually more detrimental to American society as a whole. More and more people, including many of us Aspies, are losing health insurance because we either cannot pay increasing insurance dues, or that our treatments run in higher costs and hence we would have used out all the life insurance payments for our treatments.
I loathe big governments, but I hate the people to suffer more as we are increasingly unable to accept medical treatment. And if traditional low-cost treatment methods can hale the same ailments that we have as before, why not use them, as long as it works we should try them.
So I think the best solution now for the healthcare reform bill is still a single-payer system funded by the people, through the extension of Medisave or other similar schemes to all, but there should be conditions attached to ensure that the whole system is financially sustainable while ensuring that Americans are as free from life-threatening and life-restricting ills. And, if necessary, America should scale back unnecessary military commitment that are not really effectiveagainst the current state of non-state terrorism AND economic tussles.
Add this in. Abortion should not be funded by governmental dollars, this will be an exception to what's above because abortion means murder!
Look at the Post Office ("It's on track this year for an operating loss of between $6 billion and $12 billion, debt surpassing $10 billion, and a $1 billion cash shortfall" writes Fortune magazine), DMV, Amtrak. Meanwhile government run GM is showing a loss while private sector competitor Ford is showing profits., Medicare and Medicaid are running in the red, and worst of all social security is going to be out of cash by about 2020. All these points say the Government cannot run anything properly. Their experience and track record prove it. If someone handed you their resume with this much fail would you hire them? I wouldn't!
I DON'T want the Goverment to run health care. It needs to be a private sector thing. There are ways to reduce costs. First and foremost with tort reform! This change alone would help rid the system of ridiculous law suits that plague doctors everywhere. Next by removing the ban on interstate health care insurance this will open up literally thousands of low cost options because now all health care providers can compete nationally with each other. Increasing the transparency of hospital fees and coverage will empower people with the knowledge to make informed decisions about which provider they should purchase. These are just three ways to keep costs affordable. There are many others! _________________ CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:18 am Post subject:
kxmode wrote:
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First and foremost with tort reform! This change alone would help rid the system of ridiculous law suits that plague doctors everywhere.
We already have a form of tort reform, it’s called "either you sign away your rights to a see a mediator instead of a jury or the doctor won’t see you".
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:22 am Post subject:
I'm not a party person but I feel this guy's ideas are right on track. I mean when I get into a financial pinch I create a budget to keep my expenses low. Sounds like they'd like to do the same. Instead of this MASSIVE new health care thing... why not try these four ideas for a year and see what happens? I think that would be the smart thing to do. _________________ CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
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Last edited by kxmode on Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:27 am; edited 1 time in total
So you're opposed to a la carte government? You prefer someone picking out a huge glob of groceries for you instead of being able to pick and choose each item?
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:27 am Post subject:
ScratchMonkey wrote:
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Coadunate wrote:
Bill balls.
So you're opposed to a la carte government? You prefer someone picking out a huge glob of groceries for you instead of being able to pick and choose each item?
No I’m opposed to losing the bird in hand in an effort to catch two in the bush and winding up with neither the bird in hand nor the two in the bush like we did in 1994.
Joined: Feb 05, 2009 Age: 19 Posts: 1028 Location: Singapore
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:49 am Post subject:
Coadunate wrote:
ScratchMonkey wrote:
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Coadunate wrote:
Bill balls.
So you're opposed to a la carte government? You prefer someone picking out a huge glob of groceries for you instead of being able to pick and choose each item?
No I’m opposed to losing the bird in hand in an effort to catch two in the bush and winding up with neither the bird in hand nor the two in the bush like we did in 1994.
Well, 1994 was good. I loved that.
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I DON'T want the Goverment to run health care. It needs to be a private sector thing.
Yeah, you're right on this. So we just need to use one form of universal healthcare by all for all... and the hospitals should be private. I didn't mention public hospitals because I find them ridiculous and redundant, but public money for private hospitals, as long as the hospitals strive to maximise profits by lowering costs (but with governmental regulations to keep profits at a manageable level)... _________________ Ex amicitia vita
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:42 pm Post subject:
Maybe some of us dont want the insurance companys hand on their throat and robbing them blind.I like medicare I like not having to pay copays on meds and all that other nice stuff,that and I hate the GOP and everything they stand for sure I belive there certain things the government should stay away from but the corpartations cant be left to their own devices.I dont support the GOP because they are the patsies of the wealthy,ignorant people,racist and perhaps the worst of them all christan religions fanatics trying to force their narrow minded views down everyones throat. _________________ When will they learn,all Humans are equaly inferior to robots-Bender
You idiots I said Peaberry this is sandalwood,Bender if you cant push sandalwood your not cut out for this league.
Joined: Oct 15, 2007 Posts: 1234 Location: Tauntaun Sleeping Bag
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:28 pm Post subject:
MagnusArmstrong wrote:
Maybe some of us dont want the insurance companys hand on their throat and robbing them blind.I like medicare I like not having to pay copays on meds and all that other nice stuff,that and I hate the GOP and everything they stand for sure I belive there certain things the government should stay away from but the corpartations cant be left to their own devices.I dont support the GOP because they are the patsies of the wealthy,ignorant people,racist and perhaps the worst of them all christan religions fanatics trying to force their narrow minded views down everyones throat.
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