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dishevelled_keith
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| my phone has got a camera in it its really cool i dont need a camera anymore i cant wait for newer ones to come out they will be even more amazing they just keep on pushing the envelope |
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PrisonerSix
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| Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: Old Mobile phone and uncool |
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| Aspie_Chav wrote: | I have noticed that those people with naf mobile phones are older or uncool. Since I am working on my image, do you think that I should buy a new mobile phone and trendier mobile phone.
Having a manky old mobile phone, might give the image that you have a pay-as-you-go mobile and do not have many friends to call using it. Does any of you guys have an old mobile phone? |
To me a cell phone is nothing more than a communication device. I use it for making calls when I'm out, if I have an emergency, can't find a regular phone, etc. It's not an image thing with me. Most of the people I know am aware I have a cell phone, but most of them don't know the number, only my wife, a few relatives, and my job know the number. I don't want to be connected to everyone all the time.
My rule on upgrading my cell phone is either wait until it quits working or until the battery quits holding a charge. With my provider, Cingular, I find if I sign a new contract, I can get a new phone for the same price or less than a battery for the old one.
As for features, my wife wanted a cell phone too after all these years, so we both got new Samsung color flip phones and a family plan with unlimited long distance, shared rollover minutes, voice mail, and text messaging. They also do custom ringtones, which she took a bigger interest in that than I did.
We got text messaging not because it's cool, but because we are in an area that got some of the effects of Hurricane Katrina. A combination of the hurricane and all the people who evacuated to our city overwhelmed both the cellular network and the landlines, so getting a call in or out was difficult. However, many reported that text messaging was working while voice was not and I wanted that alternative way to communicate if this situation arose again.
Another reason to upgrade is older technology is being phased out of the cellular network, so eventually an older analog phone will no longer work. While I was getting my new phone, someone came in with a phone that all of a sudden couldn't get any signal. The customer was told her phone was an older phone and some of the towers that handle that technology were knocked out in the hurricane, while others were eventually going to be phased out, meaning that phone would eventually stop working altogether.
In other words, pick your new cellphone based on budget and needs, not on how hip it is.
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Aspie_Chav
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But as I already said, in the NT world image is everything. And yes nobody should be judged on their age, height, looks, or the color of your pants. But shouldn’t it be your job to improve your cool factor? Life would be easier if Aspies did, even if it is only by 30%, 20% or even 10%.
Yes I know that Aspies need to improve the communication skill and all of that too, but they should work on everything. A trendy new mobile phone might add only a 4% to someone cool factor, but if you work on the other stuff, it all adds up. |
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AV-geek
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One of the big things to consider with a newer cell phone is that most of them have terrible performance when it comes to it's most basic task of making and receiving of telephone calls. Most of the manufacturers, and the service providers have not put much effort into this most basic function because there is no more bling in it. When cell-phones came out, it was amazing that a telephone could even work without wires connected to it. Nowadays, it's old hat, and they must push other features in order to make their phones seem more technologically advanced.
One of the most common tactics they use is building a smaller phone. Shrinking the electronics of a cell phone is a real challenge because of some basic issues. First, the size of the typical human head has not shrunk in recent years. The phone still must be large enough to stretch between the ear, and the mouth. Smaller phones that don't make the distance typically transmit dull audio, because their microphone is "around the corner", or hidden behind your cheekbone. Flip-phones sort of solve this problem by channeling the sound with the angled keyboard cover.
Building a smaller phone also means that the speaker within the phone for hearing the far end is smaller. The speaker for hearing the ringer is also smaller (many times, it's the same speaker) The results of this is that the receiving audio quality is of lower quality. Cell-phone manufacturers try and cover up the lack of a good ringer by selling "ring tones" so that the phone plays music when it rings. Some people may think the fancy ring tones are cool, but how good are they really if you can't hear the phone ring in a noisey situation (like the cab of my work truck)
The next biggest problem with smaller phone is the battery. Shrinking the actual electronics that makes a phone do it's thing is easy, but it still must be powered. In order to truly shrink the size of the phone, the phone must consume less power..technology shrinking batteries is not moving anywhere near the speed of technology shrinking electronics. The most dramatic way to cut power consumption (and increase talk-time) is to reduce the R.F. output power. This is the radio signal the phone actually uses to connect to the tower, and is the heart of it's most basic functioning. Phones with reduced RF power have considerably more problems maintiaining and making connections .
The last is the antenna size. This is something that connects with above. Again, there' s no real way to shrink the size of the antenna, and maintain performance. By shrinking the size of the antenna, what little output power is left has a hard time even making it out the phone. The receiving end is also compromised, as you simply need a larger antenna to capture more signal.
So, it's your decision. Personally, I enjoy my ole Motorola 2100 because it is a big thing with a particularly large battery. Using the Alltel network, I haven't been able to go too many places it won't work. It even works deep within the bowels of many office buildings! How good is that hip, gadget-loaded phone if you've got to keep asking the other party to repeat themselves because their speech is garbled, or if they ask you to repeat as well. How hip will that modern phone be if it drops calls in the middle of a conversation because either you lost the signal or the battery ran down? How good is that modern phone if you can't hear the ringer playing all that music, and you miss calls?
To me, a cell phone should only be used when necessary, and is bad manners to call from one in the first place. I can't stand listening to garbled, broken, scratch speech, and then having the call dropped while I'm speaking to them. Typically, the user of a cell phone is multi-tasking, and has their mind on other chores, like driving, or working their job. To the others around you, using a cell phone is also rude no matter how fancy the phone is!for instance, when they ring in the middle of a movie, or other show, or in a restaruant. It's also annoying to others when cellphone users divide concentration on what they are doing (like driving) and make mistakes, like running into others while phoning
If you want to really want to look decent and respectable for other people, use a land-line whenever possible simply because the sound quality is much better, but not only that, when you are sitting down at your desk or couch, your mind is on the phone conversation, and not on other things. You are also not disturbing the others around you who really don't care to hear your conversation. This, to me means much more than the appearance of the cell phone itself, and how many gadgets are combined into it! |
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Ice_Man708
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dont get a rasor they are a piece of crap.
well it depends on what you want in a cell phone.
blue tooth, multi-band with, cool looks, camera etc. |
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AV-geek
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| Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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One of the big things to consider with a newer cell phone is that most of them have terrible performance when it comes to it's most basic task of making and receiving of telephone calls. Most of the manufacturers, and the service providers have not put much effort into this most basic function because there is no more bling in it. When cell-phones came out, it was amazing that a telephone could even work without wires connected to it. Nowadays, it's old hat, and they must push other features in order to make their phones seem more technologically advanced.
One of the most common tactics they use is building a smaller phone. Shrinking the electronics of a cell phone is a real challenge because of some basic issues. First, the size of the typical human head has not shrunk in recent years. The phone still must be large enough to stretch between the ear, and the mouth. Smaller phones that don't make the distance typically transmit dull audio, because their microphone is "around the corner", or hidden behind your cheekbone. Flip-phones sort of solve this problem by channeling the sound with the angled keyboard cover.
Building a smaller phone also means that the speaker within the phone for hearing the far end is smaller. The speaker for hearing the ringer is also smaller (many times, it's the same speaker) The results of this is that the receiving audio quality is of lower quality. Cell-phone manufacturers try and cover up the lack of a good ringer by selling "ring tones" so that the phone plays music when it rings. Some people may think the fancy ring tones are cool, but how good are they really if you can't hear the phone ring in a noisey situation (like the cab of my work truck)
The next biggest problem with smaller phone is the battery. Shrinking the actual electronics that makes a phone do it's thing is easy, but it still must be powered. In order to truly shrink the size of the phone, the phone must consume less power..technology shrinking batteries is not moving anywhere near the speed of technology shrinking electronics. The most dramatic way to cut power consumption (and increase talk-time) is to reduce the R.F. output power. This is the radio signal the phone actually uses to connect to the tower, and is the heart of it's most basic functioning. Phones with reduced RF power have considerably more problems maintiaining and making connections .
The last is the antenna size. This is something that connects with above. Again, there' s no real way to shrink the size of the antenna, and maintain performance. By shrinking the size of the antenna, what little output power is left has a hard time even making it out the phone. The receiving end is also compromised, as you simply need a larger antenna to capture more signal.
So, it's your decision. Personally, I enjoy my ole Motorola 2100 because it is a big thing with a particularly large battery. Using the Alltel network, I haven't been able to go too many places it won't work. It even works deep within the bowels of many office buildings! How good is that hip, gadget-loaded phone if you've got to keep asking the other party to repeat themselves because their speech is garbled, or if they ask you to repeat as well. How hip will that modern phone be if it drops calls in the middle of a conversation because either you lost the signal or the battery ran down? How good is that modern phone if you can't hear the ringer playing all that music, and you miss calls?
To me, a cell phone should only be used when necessary, and is bad manners to call from one in the first place. I can't stand listening to garbled, broken, scratch speech, and then having the call dropped while I'm speaking to them. Typically, the user of a cell phone is multi-tasking, and has their mind on other chores, like driving, or working their job. To the others around you, using a cell phone is also rude no matter how fancy the phone is!for instance, when they ring in the middle of a movie, or other show, or in a restaruant. It's also annoying to others when cellphone users divide concentration on what they are doing (like driving) and make mistakes, like running into others while phoning
If you want to really want to look decent and respectable for other people, use a land-line whenever possible simply because the sound quality is much better, but not only that, when you are sitting down at your desk or couch, your mind is on the phone conversation, and not on other things. You are also not disturbing the others around you who really don't care to hear your conversation. This, to me means much more than the appearance of the cell phone itself, and how many gadgets are combined into it! |
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Emettman
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| Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Aspie_Chav wrote: | | But shouldn’t it be your job to improve your cool factor? |
Nah*.
When I parked my 12 year old Toyota Corolla at Heathrow long term business parking, it was about the oldest thing in sight. I could buy a shiny new silver thing tomorrow. I'm not interested, and I'm certainly not interested in impressing the sort of people who would be impressed.
If it was in my interest for business or other reasons, I might consider it, but otherwise it's just empty gaudy show. What do I care what "they" think?
*unless it makes YOU happier. |
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Aspen
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| Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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I do not have a cell phone, but I think buying a "cooler" one because you think it will improve your "image" is a pointless waste of money. Who even knows or cares what your cell phone looks like? If someone were impressed by a "cool" cell phone, that person would not be worth impressing anyway. If you want to improve your image, look at GroovyDruid's articles for improving the skills that help you get along with others.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/asperger.html?name=Journal&file=search&bywhat=aid&forwhat=GroovyDruid
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Teaorcoffee
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| Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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The trick to make yourself look trendy (just another word for 'normal') is to dress tidely and have a decent hairstyle. Not everything revolves around mobile phones.
I only buy a new phone if the battery doesn't have a good lifespan (if it can't go 2 days without charging), so I buy one at least every 2 years. |
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Aspie_Chav
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| Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:29 am Post subject: |
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| Aspen wrote: | I do not have a cell phone, but I think buying a "cooler" one because you think it will improve your "image" is a pointless waste of money. Who even knows or cares what your cell phone looks like? If someone were impressed by a "cool" cell phone, that person would not be worth impressing anyway. If you want to improve your image, look at GroovyDruid's articles for improving the skills that help you get along with others.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/asperger.html?name=Journal&file=search&bywhat=aid&forwhat=GroovyDruid |
As I said, I am working on all of those, and I also been to the link to, thanks anyway. I read many articals and will continue to read more. |
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ImpecuniousMax
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Joined: Feb 28, 2006
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Location: Cornwall, Southern England
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| Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:26 am Post subject: Phone (mobile ). |
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I used to have a fat monster brick of a phone which I was actually quite proud of, since it demonstrated that I couldn’t care less about the whole cell phone/image thing. My friends and I christened it ‘Big Bertha’. Bertha was built like a brick outhouse and could resist impacts that would leave other phones destroyed. Not only could she be used to communicate, but also to beat off attackers in the event of a mugging. Sadly after a prolonged drunken game of ‘catch the phone’, Bertha hit a lamp-post with a force that even she could not withstand, and after a crackling protest finally kicked the bucket. After that I got a shiny new one with all the silly features common nowadays, but frankly, I still long for Bertha.
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Aspie_Chav
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| Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:10 am Post subject: Re: Phone (mobile ). |
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| ImpecuniousMax wrote: | | I still long for Bertha. |
I had a big fat phone too, but its batter went, I am so gutteed. |
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OTTILY
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Brain washed? I was brought up by my aspie mother ( I am AS too)and I have been interested in the most recent styles of clothing ever since I can remember! It really isn't to impress anyone at all. I just know that if I need new clothes the ones that I will like aren't going to be from a jumble sale.
So what if NT's like to dress nicely too? What exactly is wrong with it?? I am sick and tired of NT bashing (except if they are being a shite which I admit is quite often) What right do you have to judge someone on their desire to actually take pride in their appearance??
When you walk around in clothes that you don't choose yet pick up and buy regardless of their size/colour (because choosing flattering clothes is the same making the best of your body with trendy things), don't cut your hair, don't wash and you live in a ramshackle house/cave with crates for seating then come back to me and say those things. In my opinion you're a hypocrit.
I can't remember now who said it, but by you I am refering to anyone who thinks the same.
Also even if aspies ARE doing it to impress people, again SO WHAT! if it makes their life less difficult then I see no problem in it. We get enough crap as it is with out this.
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Aspie_Chav
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| OTTILY wrote: | | Also even if aspies ARE doing it to impress people, again SO WHAT! if it makes their life less difficult then I see no problem in it. We get enough crap as it is with out this. |
I agree
I consider my understanding of human behaviour very good. Why they hate, why they love why they murder and why they are religious. I am still learning about body language though. So anything that I choose to do socially I do for a logical reason, while NTs rely on their mirror-neurons to kick in automatically to assimilate other people behaviour without ever thinking about it.
So socially for an NT, if his/her acquaintances and friends smoke, drink or become religious etc then the NT will automatically be inclined to do the same also. If you ask an NT do you do these things to fit in, he will say no. For an Aspie to emulate the behaviour of NTs mirror-neurons they need to acknowledge that they are trying to fit in, and are concerned with what other people are thinking.
For example I like drinking Malabo and Coke and girly cocktails but I drink beer instead just to fit in with the lads. Should I take the advice of an NT and drink what I like and forget about what others thing despite the fact that I don’t naturally copy other people behaviour and some time appear weird because of it? |
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