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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scaramouche wrote:
By negligence, I was referring more to the idea of considering it acceptable to attack targets withni a city when you know you've got a 15% error rate, for example. As in "We aimed for the ammo dump, but if we kill a hundred civilians, well, war is hell, killing civilians happens, and it's just colateral damage..." Not giving a crap and shooting anyway, regardless of civilians being in the area, is negligent homicide.

As for collusion among insurgents, remember that half the time they're attacking each other rather than the invaders.

Maybe they'll be worn down, maybe it'll get worse. Only time will tell, I guess.


We have learned the hard way. Instead of attacking the village, we are inside the village playing beat cop and developing trust. Over time, we will fall under the umbrella of protection from the community. Nobody will want anything bad to happen to their "bobby" Wink
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quatermass wrote:
And people are SURPRISED the Iraq invasion was a SNAFU?

While Saddam Hussein was a tyrant, and should have been removed, the method used was like using a chainsaw to remove a brain tumour. Iraq is now worse off than under Hussein. The invasion will (and already) has fuelled the Muslim extremists call for Jihad, which, BTW, apparently means "proselytising" rather than literally "holy war". What's worse, people equate "terrorist" with "Muslim". While I am myself not a Muslim, and acknowledge that many Muslims have done terrible things (honour killings and of course terrorism), a terrorist can mean anyone who decides to use terror to their own ends.

Iran itself is dangerous, but not immediately so. The UN must not allow themselves to become a rubber-stamper for the US (or rather, the businessmen who influence US policy, both American and foreign) to do whatever the hell it pleases.

I remember what, at the start of the Cold War, a US politician said:

"The aim now is not to make the world safe for democracy, but rather to make the world safe for the US."

Roman.

Greek.

Russian.

British.

And now we are seeing the rise of the American Empire.


Saddam served a function he kept everyone from killing each other; he was also placed into power by us. We sold him WMD to counter the human waves of Basij. He was our cats paw against Iran just as Osama may possibly be our cats paw for other esoteric justifications (that may be innapropiate for the net). Call me crazy.... but I think it is all over China's economic ascention.- the most evil entity on the planet
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