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26 Mar 2011, 11:47 am

I am not 'anti-cure' I would not take a cure myself, but the doesn't mean that other people can't.
But I do agree that autistic children would not get much of a say, the parents would most likely have them cured anyway.


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26 Mar 2011, 11:53 am

Chibi_Neko wrote:
I am not 'anti-cure' I would not take a cure myself, but the doesn't mean that other people can't.
But I do agree that autistic children would not get much of a say, the parents would most likely have them cured anyway.


How do you view cure? A cure may simply be improved functionalism to the realm of normalcy but still holding intact unique qualities due to neurology. Just to the point no adverse symptoms exists but still traits. Not much can be done if you disagree with children receiving a cure that is parents rights and some treatments are not effective in adulthood so that is a delima.


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26 Mar 2011, 12:17 pm

Cure... as in 'cure' cure.
Getting rid of autism and making someone NT.


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26 Mar 2011, 12:23 pm

Cure is based on the idea in PR that autism is what hinders. Public relations is sort of generic like that. They mean well but politicians are not scientists and cure means remedy and a remedy for one individual is not the same for the other as symptomatology hinders in sub-symptom vs the another individual not even relevant or not hinders specifically in that symptom in a way that it prevents quality of life functionalism specifically. Cure is a needed mode of awareness to help autism research agendas compete for attention. Myself running an autism employment program donated $1,100.00 worth of autism candle inventory to the local American Cancer Society and they sold all of it. People with autism and those that have to do with autism somehow can also help cure agendas for other good pursuits. No need to pin one against the other directly or indirectly because when cure agendas seek awareness they are technically competing.


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23 Apr 2011, 7:05 pm

WOW.... :evil:



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04 May 2011, 2:13 am

Reality.. I try to understand by not thinking about things personally that are like this but just the logic.


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05 May 2011, 2:16 pm

I have Asperger Syndrome I do not wish to be cured their isnt anything wrong with people that have autism or asperger syndrome they fear us in a way because we see the world diffrent then what so called normal people do our brians are wired diffrently why else would they wish to cure us yes I am stone cold against the cure myth I have autistic pride



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05 May 2011, 3:45 pm

Your choices are intact but for the sake of your beliefs you are in Pr attempting to evade other peoples human rights to a cure for adverse symptoms. I'd happily protest this form of autism pride at any walk in which they protest people seeking a cure. The law already holds intact an individuals right to not receive treatment yet still others are attempting to evade the progress of this choice for others. While it's not criminal I view it as something that is something like criminal.


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05 May 2011, 5:34 pm

Joker wrote:
I have Asperger Syndrome I do not wish to be cured their isnt anything wrong with people that have autism or asperger syndrome they fear us in a way because we see the world diffrent then what so called normal people do our brians are wired diffrently why else would they wish to cure us yes I am stone cold against the cure myth I have autistic pride


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06 May 2011, 2:41 am

I do not think that the deliberation of this issue is something that one goes about in an unemotional manner and then follows up by coming to a reasonable conclusion. Dissenting thoughts and perceptions about this often come from a deep-seated belief that people or establishments/institutions in general have malicious or less than benevolent intentions for those concerned. Thoughts that usually originate from a psychological complex that influences a person to have suspicions against a large number of those outside of the Autism group/community and their social circles. This along with the assumption that there are not many people who dread having an Autism Spectrum Disorder and an intentional lack of appreciation of those who live in greater or lesser degrees of misery because of it combines to become a large part of the basis for the anti-cure dissidence.

However, you can take comfort in the idea that researchers' intentions to discover a cure are rather unaffected by the words of polemicists. A cure will be found. It will most likely be implemented via gene or antisense therapy at some point in the next decade or two.

As well, having had a lot of personal experience with this research I have found that researchers often do not have enough time to listen to each others opinions. Let alone debaters who are so heavily influenced by erroneous and distorted notions. So, You have nothing to be worried about.

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06 May 2011, 5:09 pm

:idea:

Sensibility.


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06 May 2011, 6:47 pm

CombattiLaV wrote:
I do not think that the deliberation of this issue is something that one goes about in an unemotional manner and then follows up by coming to a reasonable conclusion. Dissenting thoughts and perceptions about this often come from a deep-seated belief that people or establishments/institutions in general have malicious or less than benevolent intentions for those concerned. Thoughts that usually originate from a psychological complex that influences a person to have suspicions against a large number of those outside of the Autism group/community and their social circles. This along with the assumption that there are not many people who dread having an Autism Spectrum Disorder and an intentional lack of appreciation of those who live in greater or lesser degrees of misery because of it combines to become a large part of the basis for the anti-cure dissidence.

However, you can take comfort in the idea that researchers' intentions to discover a cure are rather unaffected by the words of polemicists. A cure will be found. It will most likely be implemented via gene or antisense therapy at some point in the next decade or two.

As well, having had a lot of personal experience with this research I have found that researchers often do not have enough time to listen to each others opinions. Let alone debaters who are so heavily influenced by erroneous and distorted notions. So, You have nothing to be worried about.

Take care.


If you would like to give an opinion, how likely is a prenatal test for autism in the next couple of decades? Do you have an opinion prenatal on if a prenatal test would be required to start the cure therapy before birth, or might the therapy for a cure start after birth? And if there were a prental test do you have an opinion on what method of prenatal testing would be used?



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07 May 2011, 1:30 pm

I don't think anyone has the answer to that. Again abortion is not a cure but a malicious one. Also anti-abortion against a cure is malicious toward a cure. I do not suffer from the delusion autism is to everyone a great thing or else they are simply depressed. A cure for adverse symptoms is a human right and simply will not be overcome by these kinds of politics.


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08 May 2011, 12:16 am

Delirium wrote:
Joker wrote:
I have Asperger Syndrome I do not wish to be cured their isnt anything wrong with people that have autism or asperger syndrome they fear us in a way because we see the world diffrent then what so called normal people do our brians are wired diffrently why else would they wish to cure us yes I am stone cold against the cure myth I have autistic pride


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Thats so funny haha but I struggle with punctuation I have always had a punctuation :roll:



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08 May 2011, 12:30 am

At times it may seem senseless to argue. Least to me I can understand the idea of being labeled and feeling defective and then rejecting the defectiveness notion. Then I see people who use the autism as an identity and they are going to college and integrated quite well with no or very little supports. They say these things in spite of the "disability" others experience. Bottom line is as a diagnostic criterion you either are disabled or not. So if your autism is not disabling then I am not sure why you are diagnosed.

If you are not disabled by autism then you do not have a disability.

If you are disabled by autism then you do have a disability.

Autism is a disability.

If autism is a disability because of how the world is and the world should change then this is a particular social idea that should be discussed and concluded.

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09 May 2011, 7:26 am

But how do we go about changing the mentality of 98% of the population? I am an NT and I can only think like an NT. As an NT I may have a bit more mental flexibility in trying to understand or empathize with a person on the spectrum, but even on this board I have a difficult time understanding some of the posters, even after reading and re-reading their posts. My NT logic simply isn't the same as their Aspie logic. As a mater of fact, my NT logic doesn't always click with other NTs when it comes to certain subjects.

NTs are hardwired in their thought processes just as people with Autism are hardwired in their thought processes., so I'm trying to understand what it is that NTs are expected to do to accommodate people on the spectrum.