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Jainaday
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Yay for revival of the rules question. . . There seems to be reasonable consensus on this thread that we want guys in the women's forum on a limited basis only. . .
How does everyone feel about letting guys post to request permission to post on a given topic, with the thread originator being the one to decide? And then other than that, no guys unless specifically invited, or specifically allowed for that thread?
Thoughts. . . anyone?
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SpaceStace
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I appear to be in the minority but I think it would be nice to have a place (this forum or a different one) where men were entirely banned so women could talk about things they don't want men to hear. And vice-versa if men want that. This is probably impractical and unenforceable I understand, but that's my wish and this is the topic.
Failing that, I think this forum's description on the index page is misleading vs what it actually is. "This is a place where women can feel safe to be themselves. NO guys allowed!" That is likely to lead naive newbie women to believe they can come here and talk to women only when in reality many men here totally violate that clearly defined boundary. It is NOT a place for a woman to feel totally safe because men read and write here all the time.
Right now, this is more a "talk about women stuff, men and boys welcome" forum right now than a safe place for women only, and I think it should be labeled as it actually is (or changed to match its label but I don't think that's in the cards). |
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Jainaday
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| SpaceStace wrote: | I appear to be in the minority but I think it would be nice to have a place (this forum or a different one) where men were entirely banned so women could talk about things they don't want men to hear. And vice-versa if men want that. This is probably impractical and unenforceable I understand, but that's my wish and this is the topic.
Failing that, I think this forum's description on the index page is misleading vs what it actually is. "This is a place where women can feel safe to be themselves. NO guys allowed!" That is likely to lead naive newbie women to believe they can come here and talk to women only when in reality many men here totally violate that clearly defined boundary. It is NOT a place for a woman to feel totally safe because men read and write here all the time.
Right now, this is more a "talk about women stuff, men and boys welcome" forum right now than a safe place for women only, and I think it should be labeled as it actually is (or changed to match its label but I don't think that's in the cards). |
Yeah. . . as things are, the label change seems like a very good idea.
Perhaps "no guy at all" threads could be made so with an indicator on the subject line?
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hale_bopp
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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Jainaday
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Who is the mod for this thread?
Who has the power to make ideas rules, and then enforce them?
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siuan
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: Post your ideas about rules for this forum |
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| hale_bopp wrote: | | Post your ideas here, about whether you want males to post, what sort of posts, whether this should be a forum related to womens issues etc. |
I see no reason why males should be restricted from posting. Since it is a public forum within a public forum, I believe that it would be sexist to limit men from posting. That said, I think it's a nice idea to have the women's forum to post about things the guys might really not want to hear about.
| hale_bopp wrote: | | It would be awfully hard to pull off "women only" so we'll have to revise a way of dealing with that sort of thing. |
I have an idea!  How about women refrain from posting material that they don't want men possibly responding to?
| hale_bopp wrote: | A message board with sensitive issues like this cannot function properley with stone set rules, so we must create some  |
Sure it can, it should be governed by the same set of rules that apply to all of WP.
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Beksy
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| Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:30 pm Post subject: Re: Post your ideas about rules for this forum |
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| siuan wrote: | | I see no reason why males should be restricted from posting. Since it is a public forum within a public forum, I believe that it would be sexist to limit men from posting. |
Males shouldn't be restricted from posting, but perhaps they should refrain from posting as a matter of courtesy. Most people on the WP fora have AS (and those who don't are family, friends, or professionals), so there's plenty of common experience in that respect, but growing up and being female and/or a woman is different from growing up and being male and/or a man.
| siuan wrote: | | I have an idea! How about women refrain from posting material that they don't want men possibly responding to? |
Interesting proposition, but I have a question or two.  If women were to do this, how would a woman with AS go about finding the answer to a sensitive question she has which relates to both her gender and Asperger's? Why should we women censor ourselves if there's something we want to know but are aware men won't be able to potentially help answer?
Excuse me for being blunt, but I want you responding to my hypothetical post about menstrual cycles no more than you'd want me replying to your hypothetical post about inconveniently-timed erections. |
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hartzofspace
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I have learned never to post about anything serious in here, because I have seen where women had specifically asked that only other women reply, and had it ignored. It wouldn't be so bad if the men were honestly trying to help, or hadn't seen that the topic was in the Women's Forum. But I have seen some downright silly and immature responses which, if it were my post, would have pissed me off. So the solution, at least for me, is not to post about anything I really feel uncomfortable having a man respond to. It's a shame, but that's how it stands.
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| I think it's alright for men to join Women's Discussion but I don't think it's OK for them to say or hint at things that would be offensive to all women. There are other forums for that. I think we should feel safe to discuss issues without feeling put down. I know that there's going to be some things we don't agree on but enough with the put downs. |
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ebec11
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| I think if a female doesn't want a male to post, then that should be respected. However it should be in the Topic Name, otherwise it's not clear enough. |
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NOBS
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Hi All;
I strongly think that "Women's Discussion" topics should be excluded from the "Home" page! I just unwittingly stepped into an abortion thread, and I feel like a voyeristic buttinski. Weather or not my comments were appropriate, or not, is not the point. I think this is allready being done with the "Adult" board, and would be appropriate here as well. My bad, I appologise.
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Triangular_Trees
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| posting about how women are being sexist just because they use this forum should be disallowed |
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LePetitPrince
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As long there's no men's forum then you don't have the right to prevent males from posting here.
If you want a forum which is totally exclusive for females then alex has to make a forum which is totally exclusive for men.
It wouldn't be equal if you make one forum which is totally exclusive for one gender while there's no equivalent exclusive forum for the other gender.
Now, I know about the bla bla excuses why men's forum was removed but if you want an exclusive women forum then an exclusive men forum should be made ...even if the men forum would be full of rubbish and crap ...that doesn't matter , it would be necessary just for the principle of equality. |
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Sciatrix
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| Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| LePetitPrince wrote: | As long there's no men's forum then you don't have the right to prevent males from posting here.
If you want a forum which is totally exclusive for females then alex has to make a forum which is totally exclusive for men.
It wouldn't be equal if you make one forum which is totally exclusive for one gender while there's no equivalent exclusive forum for the other gender.
Now, I know about the bla bla excuses why men's forum was removed but if you want an exclusive women forum then an exclusive men forum should be made ...even if the men forum would be full of rubbish and crap ...that doesn't matter , it would be necessary just for the principle of equality. |
Look, you guys had your forum and couldn't handle it. It is NOT women's fault that the men could not keep their forum free of filth. I used to post here a while ago as SolaCatella, and I'd take a look at the men's forum every once in a while, back when it was still up. It was like a clone of the mature topics board! As far as I'm concerned, men had their chance at a men-only board and they screwed it up. Tough cookies! It's not like men don't dominate the boards as a whole anyway. What, exactly, would you plan to discuss in your hypothetical men-only forum that doesn't get discussed everywhere else? |
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LePetitPrince
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| Quote: | | would you plan to discuss in your hypothetical men-only forum that doesn't get discussed everywhere else? |
Things that don't concern you , that's why it would be called a men-only forum. Besides, about 50% of WP users are females , so males are not dominating the forums more than the females (except for the L&D for many reasons which are not men's fault too).
You have the total right for demanding a women-only forum but only and only when there's a men-only forum made at the same time.
and when you say things "you men had your chance" it's like you are talking to all men, I never posted in men's forum, not even once.
I very barely used to post in this forum too till I saw hale's thread for the first time. |
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