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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm....I would be very curious to see what men had to privately post what they don't already post here on WP.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hmmm....I would be very curious to see what men had to privately post what they don't already post here on WP.

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I will always suspect a mens only thread or board, I think they want
to check each others junk out, or to discuss their 'short comings'.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^...or what about men who are dating members and don't want some of their threads to be seen by their gfs? Razz There are plenty of men-only topics that can be discussed other than penis' size and porn.


It's also the mods' job to ban any guy who's posting inappropriate content in a men-only forum. It's not all men's fault if there are some idiots posting in the forum.
Removing a whole forum only shows a weakness of control.


C'mon , you know that I am right.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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^...or what about men who are dating members and don't want some of their threads to be seen by their gfs? Razz There are plenty of men-only topics that can be discussed other than penis' size and porn.


It's also the mods' job to ban any guy who's posting inappropriate content in a men-only forum. It's not all men's fault if there are some idiots posting in the forum.
Removing a whole forum only shows a weakness of control.


C'mon , you know that I am right.

What have they got to hide, its a public forum, that is open to all members, if you want a mans only forum you should create your own, you keep getting your panties in a bunch LPP, over your perception that its unfair that men don't have their exclusive little Boy's Only Board, most of the men couldn't give a damn if they had a one, and I see no need for one. I think its great for the women to have their own board, given the mentality and immaturity of some males here. Be a man and back off of this issue!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LePetitPrince wrote:
^...or what about men who are dating members and don't want some of their threads to be seen by their gfs? Razz There are plenty of men-only topics that can be discussed other than penis' size and porn.


Er, I'd like to point out that there will be females browsing any proposed guys-only forum now and again if it is reinstated. After all, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, yeah? So even guys wanting to talk about member girlfriends wouldn't necessarily be immune to being seen, just as a woman whose boyfriend/husband is a member here wouldn't be assured of him not seeing anything she posts in the woman's forum.

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It's also the mods' job to ban any guy who's posting inappropriate content in a men-only forum. It's not all men's fault if there are some idiots posting in the forum.
Removing a whole forum only shows a weakness of control.

C'mon , you know that I am right.


As I recall, the reason that the forum was deleted was that inappropriate content was all that was being posted in the men's only forum. It was not a case of a few repeat offenders, but pretty much the entire posting group.

Incidentally, I know no such thing. I actually think you're whining, to be honest. Again, what men's only issues are there that don't fit into Love & Dating or the mature subforum? And bear in mind that your boy's only club won't be that at all--just as the women's forum is frequented by several males, including yourself. Some of these can be annoying and condescending--what makes you think that female equivalents don't exist to that?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sciatrix wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
^...or what about men who are dating members and don't want some of their threads to be seen by their gfs? Razz There are plenty of men-only topics that can be discussed other than penis' size and porn.


Er, I'd like to point out that there will be females browsing any proposed guys-only forum now and again if it is reinstated. After all, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, yeah? So even guys wanting to talk about member girlfriends wouldn't necessarily be immune to being seen, just as a woman whose boyfriend/husband is a member here wouldn't be assured of him not seeing anything she posts in the woman's forum.


I was just giving an example and of course I was joking hence the smiley , I am not gonna post all what serious men-only topics would be.



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As I recall, the reason that the forum was deleted was that inappropriate content was all that was being posted in the men's only forum. It was not a case of a few repeat offenders, but pretty much the entire posting group.


Proof? A user with only 79 knows that much about this forum? you know that 'all' of the threads there were silly?


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cidentally, I know no such thing. I actually think you're whining, to be honest.


I don't care what you think about me ,I am free to state my opinion and a suggestion. We were both discussing this in a mature way so far. Kindly, refrain your personal attacks/accusations/assumptions against me.

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Again, what men's only issues are there that don't fit into Love & Dating or the mature subforum?


Maybe embarrassing /emotional/personal things that some users don't want to show them to the other gender? or even don't concern the other gender?

And since there's no men forum then we have no choice only to post in L&D about men issues.


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And bear in mind that your boy's only club won't be that at all--just as the women's forum is frequented by several males, including yourself. Some of these can be annoying and condescending--what makes you think that female equivalents don't exist to that?


We will figure out together how technically prevent that.

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just as the women's forum is frequented by several males, including yourself.


I already said , I barely post in this forum. This thread is exception because I succumbed in this discussion. Try to count my posts in the non-sticky threads of the women's forum , if they exceed 20 in total ( and I am an old member here, much older than you) then just shoot me. Most topics here don't concern me and I am not even supposed to be involved ..

I am not saying that men forum should return , I am saying IF you want to have a only-women forum that bans males' posts as so many of you are suggesting here then this would be fair only if an exclusive male-only forum is made too .... with the same rules. In fact, I am against the whole idea of onegender-only forum that bans the posts of the other gender but since the point was firstly stated here and supported by so many ladies here then I stated my suggestion of a similair men-only forum.



Btw, why you are so offensive about the idea of 2 equal forums with equivalent fair equal rules?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I think I mentioned earlier, this isn't my first account. Smile I used to post under the name of SolaCatella a few years ago. Then I went away from WP for a while and forgot my password.

As for my snappishness regarding the topic, it's not so much dislike of the idea as annoyance at the fact that it seems that every other male poster comes into the women's forum to b***h about it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Again, what men's only issues are there that don't fit into Love & Dating or the mature subforum?


Just wanted to elaborate more for this question.

Men's issues which are not related to Love , dating or mature matters:


- competition among males
- bullying among boys and men
- male aspies' issues with male peers
- our relation with male peers
- shaving
- Aspiness and masculinity
-masculinity in general
-self-esteem issues
-Confidence issues
-male body issues
-men's health issues
-teen boys asking about puberty-related issues

...etc
....etc

Want me to go on? I assure you that I can ...

I dare you Sciatrix and Mr.whity little rabbit, what makes you think that men's issues are only limited to Sex, Dating and Penis?
And if the men's forum was spoiled by some , don't you think the mods should be a little more strict against those users?


I am sure that those who spoiled the men forum have a limited creativity


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I will always suspect a mens only thread or board, I think they want
to check each others junk out, or to discuss their 'short comings'.



I am sure those who post such things in the men forum have limited creativity , such as yourself obviously Mr.rabbit.

And oh .. "shortcomings" is pretty vague and discussing about our "shortcomings" is not shame at all . WP is support group after all, if we can't discuss about our "shortcomings" in life here then why joining WP??
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Women who have been attacked in their lives are triggered by impersonal, harsh, selfish, close minded communication towards themselves by males and other females. Women should be allowed to discuss abuse, rape, family, health, social, mental, and any other issues that they have freely without repercussions from other members. Women should be free to support each other without judgement and without members who don't agree trying to belittle them for their discussion. See the Good Ol' Dad thread for an example of attempted censorship of a victim by other members.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like you mixtapebooty and Shiggly. Some other women as well. Except I have noticed some women on her making some really passive aggressive comments. Theyre being real Bitches and pretend they are not. I don't like them at all.

Thats why I deleted alot in the abuse thread because I felt alot of women would use it as an an oppurtunity to put you down and I was right!

They say they don't like gossip etc but theyre as snakey as you can get.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I guess that puts me in my place.

If you're going to criticize how other women post in this forum, perhaps you could provide a hypothetical example so we know what you're talking about? Otherwise it could be anyone saying anything (and it's always someone else, right? Wink ).

btw I like gossip. I think it can be used for good. But perhaps that's the subject for another thread?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry Anemone your one the women I like the most. I will deal with the women that piss me off to them - not to other people.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just read this section for the second time and now that I am more familiar with WP I'm amazed at how many rules and regulations and proposals for rules and regulations and discussions about rules and regulations there are at a site where people are supposed to be against the interference of personal freedoms and personal expression.
I enjoy the so-called 'womens section' as most of the time it contains some of the most intelligent thread material on the site. I think if men were excluded completely we would be missing out on some good stuff even if our input to the discussions can sometimes be lame and abrasive. This site and the real world are actually very similar in many respects.
I can also understand why a separate mens section would be needed as there should be a place for the archiving of general lame and abrasive man-talk since even second class citizens deserve a place to be heard even if nobody is listening.
And then of course there would need to be neutral areas as well for neutral types of people and well I guess you can see that we'd need a whole lot more rules and regulations to prevent chaos and anarchy.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It bugs me when women create a safe zone and then men horn in on it because they like it better than men's country. But at the same time there are men I like chatting with even here, because they've earned their stripes out there in the bigger world (other forums). It depends on the person and the reason for being here. Also, on the topic. Hector's thread is kind of fun, for example.

I've noticed elsewhere how easy it can be for a man to become the centre of attention in an almost-all female zone, so I really prefer women only as much as possible.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ I second Anemone. I realise this is a dormant thread and I'm a n00bie, but a guy just posted a really incensed reply to 'Where Men Stand' and it really ticked me off. I would like it if there was less of that sort of thing, and less sexual comments. Or even none. Confused I don't think it's bigoted or sexist to want a safer zone.
I'm not saying 'ban' or 'men's opinions don't count' rah rah. Rolling Eyes I would like it if the men saw that it said 'Women's Discussion' and politely left us to it. Or at least tended to refrain from posting. I would be willing to respect theirs also, by the way. I agree this should be a safe zone where women can talk about sensitive stuff or things we have in common without having to worry about men insisting on getting in on it.

Ps. Talking to men can be great. I like to do that in 'General'
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