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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Unemployment figures; staggering as always Reply with quote

Daedelus1138 wrote:
Yes, it's true. Most people that claim they have Asperger's and have good jobs are self-diagnosing. I occasionally go to an Asperger's support group and the overwhelming majority of people there are not employed full time and most are on disability and unemployed.


Don't you think employed Aspies are less likely to go to support groups and un-employed Aspies or Aspies on disability are much more likely to go? I think your sample is highly schewed.

I mean if it's a support group - people who need less support are less likely to attend aren't they?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Unemployment figures; staggering as always Reply with quote

viv wrote:
Daedelus1138 wrote:
Yes, it's true. Most people that claim they have Asperger's and have good jobs are self-diagnosing. I occasionally go to an Asperger's support group and the overwhelming majority of people there are not employed full time and most are on disability and unemployed.


Don't you think employed Aspies are less likely to go to support groups and un-employed Aspies or Aspies on disability are much more likely to go? I think your sample is highly schewed.

I mean if it's a support group - people who need less support are less likely to attend aren't they?


I would say you both make a valid point, and the truth is somewhere in between. There are Aspies with well-paying jobs, but they're the exception rather than the rule.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would agree that aspies who have adapted enough to function and keep a job would need less support (and therefore less likely to join a group).

I also think there is a high unemployment inside the AS community.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sufficed to say it is a huge hindrance to having/holding onto a job..

I think a lot of people who have vanilla aspergers are just experts in their field and do quite well and so never join a group. Its mostly people with additional problems that seek help and get diagnosed. If I just had aspergers I would be considered a genius but with the ADHD as well... working and thus surviving without incident is harder.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Projectile wrote:
Sufficed to say it is a huge hindrance to having/holding onto a job..

I think a lot of people who have vanilla aspergers are just experts in their field and do quite well and so never join a group. Its mostly people with additional problems that seek help and get diagnosed. If I just had aspergers I would be considered a genius but with the ADHD as well... working and thus surviving without incident is harder.


I just don't want to think about it that way - if I think about it as a huge hinderance to getting and holding a job - it's going to negatively affect me when I apply or interview for a job or try to perform. It might even affect how, or even if, I look for jobs. If I think about it as a positive and the positives it has to offer, it'll help me when I look for a job and it'll encourage me to work more on the negatives and the hinderances.

I realize that sounds delusional, but I think perspective can have a big impact on how we deal with our problems.
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