Zinia
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| Sweetleaf wrote: |
[b]Well I can see why they need someone who loves fast paced work and is friendly...I mean its fast food people go in to order food real quick ideally they want a friendly cashier who works fast and effectively to get them their food. I have seen first hand how pissed of and almost verbally abusive people will get if its really busy and the cashier gets behind and is having a hard time keeping up.
Well yeah some of the questions were pretty invasive, which I was not very happy about, but a lot were more to determine if you can do the job effectively enough for them as well. |
It just seems so entitled--I mean, I think they should be happy enough to find someone who's willing to work in a fast food place--not someone who's personality makes them the perfect fast food worker. I mean, who wants to think they've got the perfect personality for fast food anyway? I imagine that only a small population of people aspire for that.
It's not an ideal job for most people, so it irritates me that the company is looking for ideal candidates.
Maybe if they gave benefits and high wages, and actually treated their workers like they were valuable, they could go screening for the ideal fast-food personalities. It's just something that irks me, though I can see the logic of it for the company.
Edit: And I'm speaking as an American, because here, fast food workers get payed minimum wage with no health insurance, usually. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Zinia wrote: | It just seems so entitled--I mean, I think they should be happy enough to find someone who's willing to work in a fast food place--not someone who's personality makes them the perfect fast food worker. I mean, who wants to think they've got the perfect personality for fast food anyway? I imagine that only a small population of people aspire for that.
It's not an ideal job for most people, so it irritates me that the company is looking for ideal candidates. |
Entitled? I'd rather clean toilets, and I have done. I'd last a matter of minutes before walking off the job in a fast food place. I know this from experience (not that particular job, but others with similar levels of interaction with the public). It's not always a question of being suited, sometimes it's a question of even being able to function in that capacity. If it involves interacting with the general public more than rarely, I can't do it.
It's got nothing to do with the wages or benefits, either. |
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I do think in some jobs personality screening is somewhat essential. In some fast food places you deal with the worst of the worst because diabetes as they say is a poor man's condition..they need to determine if you are the kind of person that is one of the following 2:
1) Would get on well with the manager.
2) Will put up with any sh*t people throw at them while doing their job fast enough to reduce the amount of sh*t throwing.
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Zinia
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Well, entitled is a strong word.
And I'm sure I would see personality screening differently if I were an employer. But as a worker, it just irritates me. I think it's bad enough to be rejected from a job, but being rejected from a job for one's personality just seems like flinging mud on someone's eye.
I suppose some people don't realize what working in a fast food restaurant would be like, so they need to be screened out. Though I would assume that the majority of people applying to the job would be familiar with what it entails, and would be applying because they thought they would like to try working there. A simple explanation of what the job entails, and the question, "do you still want to apply?" seems like it would serve the same function as screening, and it would be more respectful of the worker's dignity.
Edit: And I work in a kind of door to door sales type job. This job is nothing like anything I've ever done. I have social anxiety, am not a smooth talker, have thin skin, and a history of low self esteem. If I were to have been screened by personality, I doubt I would have been considered an ideal candidate. I had serious doubts before applying, but I figured that this job might help my to strengthen the weaker skills. I actually broke the record for sales in the first day (since then, things have evened out more). But, the screening is irritating to me because it seems to demean the applicant's will power--and it seems to suggest that the employer is better capable of evaluating what the applicant's personality is capable of, with their silly little questionnaire, then the applicant is. I totally agree with people who want to avoid certain types of work because of their personality, but I just think employers should give a little more credit to personal will power and the individuality of the applicant, instead of trying to type them and decide what their value is based on a personality test. |
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| Sweetleaf wrote: | | edgewaters wrote: | | sally7171 wrote: | | This is a dangerous thread that I wish would age off the board. When you look for ways to make easy money you open yourself up to scams and illegal activity. The only legitimate way to make money is to get a job. |
So entrepreneurs are all criminals. 
The economy is moving away from employment and more towards self-employment - what you say couldn't be further from the truth in the present environment. Employment is rapidly becoming something only peons like me do, as more and more people are becoming freelance contractors, or producers in their own right (eg making products and selling them, or becoming traders like on ebay etc).
The economy couldn't even function if everyone was an employee - who would there be to hire them? |
This is good and bad...I mean hopefully some of these self employed people will still want to hire people to help with the work. I don't see how I would self employ myself. For one I have very, very low self confidence, and the financial aspect of trying to run my own buisiness would be hell considering I fail at math and really don't understand a lot of the paper work. I mean if I could make income I suppose I could hire someone to do that but the issue would be getting in a position to do so. |
Everytime I've tried to do the self employed bit it has ended in disaster for me.
I have no problem honing a skill to the level where people are impressed enough to exchange decent money for what I can do, but being self employed is incredibly social, you actually have to sell yourself to other people and negotiate in order to actually get any work and I fail epically at that.  |
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edgewaters
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| Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Sweetleaf wrote: | | This is good and bad...I mean hopefully some of these self employed people will still want to hire people to help with the work. I don't see how I would self employ myself. For one I have very, very low self confidence, and the financial aspect of trying to run my own buisiness would be hell considering I fail at math and really don't understand a lot of the paper work. I mean if I could make income I suppose I could hire someone to do that but the issue would be getting in a position to do so. |
I can't really see it for myself either, but I'm just saying, making money as something other than an employee is possible and it certainly isn't shady, as sally7171 claimed. Every small business owner does it. Employees wouldn't even exist without it.
My grandfather used to build canoes; the tools are still around, including the mold, and if I could learn to do it and find a space to do it in, I'd love to do that. I don't think the paperwork or math is all that hard unless you're making many sales of small things, but handmade wood and canvas canoes are big-ticket items, 2-3 thousand dollars apiece, and one person can only put out 1 or 2 a month. So not many sales to track. |
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Scottinoz
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| Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I find it really hard competing with China, Unless you make the best quality and they are starting to improve the quality from customer demand >_> |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:56 am Post subject: Re: Getting money |
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| thewhitrbbit wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | Yeah I am sure being in a sh***y environment really allows for a lot of growth....that proves untrue in my case. I don't want my mind occupied by work I don't like and fellow employees that treat me like crap I am already mentally ill I don't need to add to it that way. Also if you're here to preach about how wrong it is to use the social safety network this is not the thread for you...I didn't post this so some jerk could try and make me feel bad about considering applying for it. I guess I should just live my life for whats best for everyone else and disregard my own needs  .
I mean I think if it comes down to mowing lawns or getting SSI I'll go for the SSI...better for me and others because its better if I don't go over the edge and possibly cause harm to anyone  . |
So because you don't want your mind occupied by the work you don't like, you get to take the social safety net that others work to contribute to?
That's sad. I go to work 5 days a week, I don't like it all the time, I go to meetings and they are the last things I want to do, but I do them because sometimes you have to do things you don't want to do.
I wish I could quit my job and take welfare so I could only do the things I like to do; but the world doesn't work that way.
Social safety is for those who truly need it; and even those should give back as much as they can (volunteer, etc). People who truly need it, I have no problem with taxes paying to help them.
I was raised that you do whatever job you can to provide for yourself. You don't take hand outs unless you have no other option. |
Cheers to thewhitrbbit. At least thewhitrbbit has the personal responsibility to support himself and do what he's gotta do.
If only the rest of our society was like you, man. |
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Sweetleaf
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Thank you everyone who gave helpful suggestions....and I will put some to use. Probably odd jobs and things like house sitting, house cleaning or pet sitting.
This isn't not a job, but I will probably give painting houses a try......and if that does not work out I suppose I could inquire at the various thrift stores or maybe libraries hire every once in a while.
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Oh, another idea I've seen a lot lately. Tag sales. 7 days a week. I've seen lots of people do this. Just have a tagsale sign up all the time throughout the day, selling their stuff. You can find stuff in the trash to sell, or resell other stuff you buy at tag sales or thrift stores. Some places require permits for tag sales, so it depends really, if you'll not be bothered about tag sale permits, or you can get like a permanent permit or something. But it's an idea. I THINK, though, that garage sales might not need permits and tag sales might, some places have weird loopholes like that.
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| I'm not sure what the difference is between tag sales and garage sales if there is any but I know that where I live you have to buy a permit and there are rules on how often you can have them and how long you can have them. After my last one I said never again after I had one and only got 3 paying customers all day, two of which were my relatives. I've almost always done bad at yard sales. |
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Also where would you get items to sell? If I wasn't involved with my niche 'business' I could afford to stop for things out on the curb more. Around my area people throw out a lot of vacuum cleaners, often just because they got clogged. I knew 1 tweeker who would unclog them or replace the belt, whatever it took to get them working. He would sell them for $30, just enough to get himself spun for a few days. Once he found a cheap drum kit in the dumpster, don't know how much he got for that though.
If I could stand to be around zillions of people I'd consider busking, as a way to make a special interest lucrative. In my area though it's a little saturated and I do what I can to avoid having cops waste my time as well as their own
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Scottinoz
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| Quantum_Immortal wrote: | | Quote: | | Uhh I can't seem to remain in a relationship for more than maybe a couple months, partially due to me feeling totally indifferent about sex and not being able to act like i actually really enjoy it. So I don't think there will be any marrige any time soon. |
..... I'm not sure you'll like my suggestion...... 
Have you thought doing something in the sex industry  ? The rational is, if you are totally indifferent, maybe it wouldn't bother you doing that for money.
About being an espie in that industry. I strongly suspect sasha grey is aspie.
Don't take it the wrong way  |
I was thinking this but you need really high confidence in yourself and skill, I  Sasha Grey shes amazing i want someone like that in real life, How would you know shes a aspie? The sex industry is got a lot of competition and it's a cut throat buisness.
I can't think of much to make $$$ that's legal. |
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Zinia
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I find it insulting that prostitutes, or porn stars, or whatever Sasha Grey is, can make more money then people working to care for the elderly, disabled, or children.
I wouldn't do sex-work.
You have much more to offer then Sasha Grey (and I am not EVEN going to look her up).
You're so young. Once you get more life experience you will be able to see which paths are right for you. |
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Scottinoz
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| hanyo wrote: | I'd much rather get ssi than a job I hate. A job I hate wouldn't last anyways. I'd either get fired or quit.
Right now I'm supported by my mother and when she is gone if she can't leave me anything and I can't get ssi I'll be screwed because I can't work. I'll end up homeless and may as well off myself then. |
Mmmm yeah makes sense to me. |
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