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eristocrat
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| garyww wrote: | | I would throw Hunter Thompson onto the list and maybe Richard Brautigan (sp?) |
Garyww, I love the weirdness of Richard Brautigan. I don't know why I never considered he might be an Aspie.
If the writing group gets off the ground I would love to see a compendium of members' writing on lulu or somesuch. I suppose that's jumping pretty far ahead, though. |
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Sea_of_Saiyan
Deinonychus
Joined: Nov 04, 2008
Age: 18
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Location: USA
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I'm in the process of writing a psychoological/sci-fi novel. (Ender's Game is an inspiration.)
I don't feel as though I'll personally have a problem with social interaction, seeing as though my characters are mostly crazy and/or introverted.
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Darksider42
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Joined: Jan 13, 2009
Age: 20
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:10 am Post subject: |
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| I'm pretty sure H.P Lovecraft had AS. Most of his stories tend to focus less on characters and more on the creatures that populated the worlds he created. |
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wendybird
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Joined: Jan 21, 2009
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I write dialogue pretty well now, but it took a lot of work. I feel like I'm actually particularly good at showing not telling, especially in terms of body language, since I have trouble with that and always have to consciously notice it. A lot of the time I write the dialogue straight out first, then go through and put in things like the way their eyes move and whether they cross their arms or sigh or anything.
My big problem is writing different people interacting. I could make people with different flavors on the outside; one likes pizza and the other is proud of their art. But when they talked to each other, they always understood each other too well, like they were in each other's heads, because I was in both their heads. It's difficult for me to understand misunderstanding. So I couldn't make them conflict because either I don't see both their perspectives at once, in which case I can't write them, or I can see both at once, in which case they seem compatible.
I like to understand my characters thoroughly, but sometimes that's not the best thing for a story. In the comic I'm writing, there are two main characters. Gemini, I understand. She's a lot like me and maybe sort of Aspie but maybe not. Syblai is complete opposite to me, so I have to write him totally from the outside, putting him together from pieces of my friends. I really don't know how well I'm doing at making him believable. My comics are at http://www.sunelves.com if you want to check them out.
I was writing a novel with a friend, but it stopped working. I think I kind of crushed his spirit by always pointing out the flaws in the parts he wrote and then fixing them myself instead of letting him do it. I'm always tripping over my confidence in my own knowledge when I'm around him. I always make him feel stupid and then I get angry at him for not writing or working with me anymore. His perspective is really valuable to me, both as a separate being to give a different feel to characters, and because he has really cool ideas. I guess I can't express that well enough. I'm sad and torn because I care about him, but I also care about the book and really want it to continue.
I'm also writing a sort of autobiography. It's pretty strange. I don't think I'll share any of it right now. |
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mistercheech
Blue Jay
Joined: Jan 27, 2009
Age: 18
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:08 am Post subject: |
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| just read any hemingway and delillo. dialogue doesn't necessarily have to be realistic, it can have that stilted aspie monologue-ish-ness to it. |
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ping-machine
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:15 am Post subject: |
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Sure aspie writers can be successful.
I have a novel I've been writing for quite some time now, which was very nearly accepted by Harper Collins although they turned it down in the end.
As for getting feedback from people, it's a matter of finding the right people. Try joining a workshop or something. Some in my experience say they will give feedback, and then they don't. Others give feedback which is not useful.
My mum has a habit of picking apart my grammar and punctuation when I really want a crit. But that's just the way she thinks, which is why I say it's best to try and find the right people to give you crit.
Another thing I was doing recently is to post some of my novel online and ask for feedback, a lot of which has been quite useful. (I've been sticking my novel on fictionpress.com) You would get in touch with other people who know about writing, and also I like that the criticism is written not verbal so I can reference it later on. And you don't have to be nervous about face to face contact because there isn't any.
But in answer to the original question -- can aspies be good / successful writers. Hell, yeah.
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frosterrace
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| Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:06 am Post subject: Re: Aspie authors writing social interaction |
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Of course, an aspergers can become great authors. I am myself interested in writing stories, even my social behavior is not upto the mark but still I can think of it. I am having savant syndrome along with asperger syndrome and may be you are.  |
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TheUnnamedOne
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Im writing a novel and been wondering about that, and asked people, whov said the character interactions are fine. I kind of gathered them from TV shows, movies, books and sometimes in real life. Interesting question tho
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mistercheech
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:05 am Post subject: |
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| i think an interviewer once asked bret easton ellis writes such realistic dialogue and he said that he gets it from tv and movies. point being i guess that it's reasonable to learn how to do dialogue from tv and movies rather than real life. just don't learn from chris carter. |
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musicislife
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Joined: Oct 09, 2008
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Location: whatever town, usa
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attempting to write a novel(key word: attempting)
i think it is crap, but my friends like it - if anyone wants to proof read part of it, pm me
Authors I think may have(or may have had) AS:
JRR Tolkien
CS Lewis
umm, i had a list yesterday but it went missing.... 
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Firechick
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Zyborg
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| Person I know is writing book and is basing one of villains on me. |
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IOAD
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Here's the thing. Neurotypical people do not tend to think extensively about social interaction; they just do it, most of the time, and they do it very well. They do not agonise about this one single word that brought that particular world crashing about their ears. They do not overly concern themselves with the discomfort of being a social outsider looking in. They do not map and remap the complexities of social interaction to try to establish some definitive truth, they just get on and live it. Should it be a surprise to anyone to find that many writers have Aspergers? Do you realise how difficult it is to write a great novel, how to sustain it and bring it home, all plates still spinning? It's a job for someone with a meticulous attention to detail, and a one-track dedication. Ring any bells? I have one of those ever-so-helpful information sheets about Aspergers - my son is diagnosed - and it says, your child will be good at Maths and bad at English and Art, in fact any subject where the student needs to show creativity. What rubbish, what utter arse! People with Aspergers devote themselves to the minutiae of many topics; philosophy, mathematics, electronics - how does literature differ from those subjects? Isn't it all just one? Aren't students of social interaction who have Aspergers just as likely to top their field, and aren't they perhaps more likely to bring a new way of seeing the way that two people interact?
Great writers with Aspergers may be hard to spot because they acquire skills from their observations and thus pass beneath the radar. Also, if you meet a writer who happens to be a little intense, you think, 'ah, that's a writer'. You don't think 'ah, that man's got Aspergers'. However, into the mix I would throw Franz Kafka and Iris Murdoch (who is reported to have had real trouble understanding the rules of Mornington Crescent, which is a sure-fire diagnosis, in my book!)
So don't have any worries about writing. If it is your thing, then make it your thing. |
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keerawa
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Joined: May 24, 2009
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I love writing, and many people really enjoy writing what I've written.
There are lots of supportive writing groups on Livejournal. Nanowrimo, National Novel Writing Month, is in November, and that's a time lots of support groups swing in. There's also a lot of fanfiction, and I think that's a great place to start. You can begin with established characters that you enjoy, even ones that have some similar characteristics to you. (Grissom from CSI, for example?) You can find a "beta" to look over your work, to edit it and offer suggestions. And then when you post your story to the Livejournal community, you'll get people replying. (You also need to pay your dues. You need to reply to other people's stories. Then when they see your name on something, they'll click the link, read it and reply, to pay you back.)
My modeling of people, for drama, RPGs, and writing, has made it much easier for me to understand real people. |
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RockJustice
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My top issue with writing is procastination (and creating titles)...I have a crapload of ideas floating around in my head (Some of them have been there for several years.), but I'm unsure of actually writing them down.
My ideas span the board from reality to way out there, but for some reason, teenagers and sex seem to play major roles in the stories....I don't know why...or DO I  |
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