Pandora_Box
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 Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:13 pm Post subject: Academic Dismissal |
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Has anyone ever been in academic dismissal?
I'm suppose to sit out the summer and fall semester. I want to try and get an appeal for at least the fall, but I'm not sure they will grant me one. |
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Nascaireacht
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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| What is academic dismissal, and why does it happen? |
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Pandora_Box
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Nascaireacht wrote: | | What is academic dismissal, and why does it happen? |
Poor grades in an excessive and not getting the full credits, so they make you take a forced break until a new semester. |
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AardvarkGoodSwimmer
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| This might be a time to consider "playing the aspie card"? |
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Pandora_Box
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote: | | This might be a time to consider "playing the aspie card"? |
I'm not on any school benefits for being so. I was going to play, and all of these are true:
-Parental divorce
-Family member dying
Card for some sympathy. |
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AardvarkGoodSwimmer
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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My condolences for the death of your family member.
The school should certainly cut you some slack for that reason alone. And when my parents weren't getting along and possibly moving toward divorce, very, very highly stressful. I think the bottom line is just that bureaucracies have a hard time being reasonable.
I am self-diagnosed as being on the Asperger's-Autism Spectrum. And I think that's part of Spectrum Civil Rights, that it's okay to self-diagnose. But I suspect institutions would have a really hard time with this. |
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Pandora_Box
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote: | My condolences for the death of your family member.
The school should certainly cut you some slack for that reason alone. And when my parents weren't getting along and possibly moving toward divorce, very, very highly stressful. I think the bottom line is just that bureaucracies have a hard time being reasonable.
I am self-diagnosed as being on the Asperger's-Autism Spectrum. And I think that's part of Spectrum Civil Rights, that it's okay to self-diagnose. But I suspect institutions would have a really hard time with this. |
Yep.
But my real issue when it comes to college is:
-Can't socialize with the teacher very well, a lot of the time the teacher thinks I'm questioning their authority when I present data or facts that go against what they are saying.
-I also lack motivation. The first few weeks I'm really on top of everything and then I slowly go downhill. This happens especially in general admission classes like History, Geography, etc.
-My internal filter and the struggle. Ever sit in class and have to bite down what you want to say. I learned a very hard lesson that I am not allowed to say anything, teacher is suppose to talk you answer if they ask to. So I have to keep my internal filter on, all the time. It becomes very draining with having to do work as well, and then interact and socialize.
But also
Last year was stressful due to the parental divorce and family death. It's like my complications that people don't understand. They see me as an unfocused student who doesn't care about my education. And I see a school environment that doesn't allow creativity and discussion. Doesn't allow freedom and I feel robotic and bored. |
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AardvarkGoodSwimmer
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Pandora_Box wrote: | | . . . Can't socialize with the teacher very well, a lot of the time the teacher thinks I'm questioning their authority when I present data or facts that go against what they are saying. . . |
That's actually a lousy teacher (or a teacher with a deficiency in skills). But it's probably a good chunk of teachers who are this way, considerably more if you add in teachers who are this way to one extent or another.
It's probably only 25% of teachers who can really recognize this for the gift it is. That this draws forth the interest of a lot of students, even if they can't immediately field the question or objection. In fact, often it's better that way. |
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Pandora_Box
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote: | | Pandora_Box wrote: | | . . . Can't socialize with the teacher very well, a lot of the time the teacher thinks I'm questioning their authority when I present data or facts that go against what they are saying. . . |
That's actually a lousy teacher (or a teacher with a deficiency in skills). But it's probably a good chunk of teachers who are this way, considerably more if you add in teachers who are this way to one extent or another.
It's probably only 25% of teachers who can really recognize this for the gift it is. That this draws forth the interest of a lot of students, even if they can't immediately field the question or objection. In fact, often it's better that way. |
Sadly that's the school system. And then this academi dismissal makes it seem like it's only the students fault. That the student is a bad student and what the student can do to be a better student. But I have gotten personal grades on some of my transcripts as well. But I don't have that evidence and cannot back that up. So I have to admit being a bad student even though I'm not. |
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AardvarkGoodSwimmer
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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This is a potential problem, especially if there's some re-entry proceduce and some bureaucrat (who might call themselves a counselor, Ha!) who wants you to say you're going to do better or admit you made a mistake, or say that you're 'bad' or that you were a 'sinner' and now 'repent'.
NTs generally aren't thrown by this. That might say the person was a jerk, but they're kind of able to move sideways and keep going.
However, my authenticity is one of my gifts, it makes my writing better, it makes my interaction in business settings better (made me a better, more honest tax preparer, and an advocate for my clients) , and not necessarily perfect, I'm not a purist, but it is a gift.
There might be kind of the best of both worlds, that is, a way to finesse it. |
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AardvarkGoodSwimmer
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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If there is a meeting which is necessary . . .
How about going in there with a brief, thoughtful letter? And I mean, a max of one side of one piece of paper, where you make whatever judicious compromises you're able to make and there it is.
And then during the meeting, you can refer back to your letter. It gives you a matter-of-fact source of strength. And also, since it shows preparation, I rather think the person talking with you will be on their better behavior. |
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Pandora_Box
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| To get a reappeal I have to write a letter of why I have failed to get a success amount of good grades and a good amount of units. So again, write about how I was horrible student and what I have done to punish myself. |
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AardvarkGoodSwimmer
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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What if you include passages somewhat like this:
' . . . Yes, I think I could have asked for help sooner. All the same, I am asking for understanding and assistance now in responding to these serious life issues . . . ' |
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Pandora_Box
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| Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote: | What if you include passages somewhat like this:
' . . . Yes, I think I could have asked for help sooner. All the same, I am asking for understanding and assistance now in responding to these serious life issues . . . ' |
Already did. We're on the same page Ardvark.
It's just I really fear what my dad will say and I need to get back into college before I get in trouble. |
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AardvarkGoodSwimmer
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 1:18 am Post subject: |
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I like the idea of adding free positives, even during difficult times and maybe especially so. So perhaps, learning guitar, community theater, local, national, international politics (local has healthier interplay between theory and practice), orienteering club or kayaking?
My mom is almost certainly on the spectrum. My dad is kind of anti-spectrum and often a bully. If your situation is somewhat similar, don't let your dad bait you, just be brief, matter-of-fact, reality principle. I guess I advocate what I've heard some counselors call measured disclosure. You certainly have a right to keep some things private.
And plenty of people have been suspended, have come back and have had good careers in really good fields. Please try and remind yourself of this from time to time. |
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