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mikecartwright
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Is the American President just a Puppet of the Federal Reserve Bankers ?
The Money Masters - How International Bankers Gained Control of America3:35:19 - 5 years ago
Also watch FIREWALL: (http://www.larouchepac.com/firewall) "The powers of financial capitalism had a far-reaching plan, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole...Their secret is that they have annexed from governments, monarchies, and republics the power to create the world's money..." THE MONEY MASTERS is a 3 1/2 hour non-fiction, historical documentary that traces the origins of the political power structure that rules our nation and the world today. The modern political power structure has its roots in the hidden manipulation and accumulation of gold and other forms of money. The development of fractional reserve banking practices in the 17th century brought to a cunning sophistication the secret techniques initially used by goldsmiths fraudulently to accumulate wealth. With the formation of the privately-owned Bank of England in 1694, the yoke of economic slavery to a privately-owned "central" bank was first forced upon the backs of an entire nation, not removed but only made heavier with the passing of the three centuries to our day. Nation after nation, including America, has fallen prey to this cabal of international central bankers. Segments: The Problem; The Money Changers; Roman Empire; The Goldsmiths of Medieval England; Tally Sticks; The Bank of England; The Rise of the Rothschilds; The American Revolution; The Bank of North America; The Constitutional Convention; First Bank of the U.S.; Napoleon's Rise to Power; Death of the First Bank of the U.S. / War of 1812; Waterloo; Second Bank of the U.S.; Andrew Jackson; Fort Knox; World Central Bank; Loose Change 911 truth police state globalists NWO New World Order Federal Reserve Alex Jones Aaron Russo America From Freedom To Fascism zionist IMF BIS John Perkins 911 911 Globalism bilderberg Rothschild Rockefeller Schiff Warburg illuminati bohemian grove idi amin freemason Also recommended: "Firewall: In Defense of Nation State" http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=8415519765816415310 Video news on "Federal Reserve": http://newstree.org/search.jsp?query=Federal+Reserve&hp=10&s=Video&vx=1«
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ArrantPariah
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| Can you provide a succinct argument for the president being a puppet of Federal Reserve bankers? That is quite a lot of material to watch. |
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Watch out for the Billdiberger Black Helicopter squadrons.
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Longshanks
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| ArrantPariah wrote: | | Can you provide a succinct argument for the president being a puppet of Federal Reserve bankers? That is quite a lot of material to watch. |
An argument could be very orthodoxly made on the grounds that Congress gave up it's right to print money to the Federal Reserve - which is owned by private banks - two thirds of which are in Europe. But there are some glitches that need to be explained. First, congress could easily take the bank's powers away. Second, Obama is Oh, bummer, when it comes to the banks because no president has ever cost them more money - and as a tax accountant I have to pay attention to stuff like that. I think the member banks will enjoy seeing him go into retirement. Third, if Obama would actually have listened to them - which he didn't, we wouldn't be in as deep a pile of economic feces as we are now.
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Delphiki
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| Longshanks wrote: | | ArrantPariah wrote: | | Can you provide a succinct argument for the president being a puppet of Federal Reserve bankers? That is quite a lot of material to watch. |
An argument could be very orthodoxly made on the grounds that Congress gave up it's right to print money to the Federal Reserve - which is owned by private banks - two thirds of which are in Europe. But there are some glitches that need to be explained. First, congress could easily take the bank's powers away. Second, Obama is Oh, bummer, when it comes to the banks because no president has ever cost them more money - and as a tax accountant I have to pay attention to stuff like that. I think the member banks will enjoy seeing him go into retirement. Third, if Obama would actually have listened to them - which he didn't, we wouldn't be in as deep a pile of economic feces as we are now.
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Well seeing as how the economic problems we have been having started with the policies 30 years ago, oh wait nevermind, let's just blame Obama.
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| Delphiki wrote: | | Longshanks wrote: | | ArrantPariah wrote: | | Can you provide a succinct argument for the president being a puppet of Federal Reserve bankers? That is quite a lot of material to watch. |
An argument could be very orthodoxly made on the grounds that Congress gave up it's right to print money to the Federal Reserve - which is owned by private banks - two thirds of which are in Europe. But there are some glitches that need to be explained. First, congress could easily take the bank's powers away. Second, Obama is Oh, bummer, when it comes to the banks because no president has ever cost them more money - and as a tax accountant I have to pay attention to stuff like that. I think the member banks will enjoy seeing him go into retirement. Third, if Obama would actually have listened to them - which he didn't, we wouldn't be in as deep a pile of economic feces as we are now.
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Well seeing as how the economic problems we have been having started with the policies 30 years ago, oh wait nevermind, let's just blame Obama. |
bzzzt... you have to go back to the 41st congress. |
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Longshanks
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| Delphiki wrote: | | Longshanks wrote: | | ArrantPariah wrote: | | Can you provide a succinct argument for the president being a puppet of Federal Reserve bankers? That is quite a lot of material to watch. |
An argument could be very orthodoxly made on the grounds that Congress gave up it's right to print money to the Federal Reserve - which is owned by private banks - two thirds of which are in Europe. But there are some glitches that need to be explained. First, congress could easily take the bank's powers away. Second, Obama is Oh, bummer, when it comes to the banks because no president has ever cost them more money - and as a tax accountant I have to pay attention to stuff like that. I think the member banks will enjoy seeing him go into retirement. Third, if Obama would actually have listened to them - which he didn't, we wouldn't be in as deep a pile of economic feces as we are now.
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Well seeing as how the economic problems we have been having started with the policies 30 years ago, oh wait nevermind, let's just blame Obama. |
Oh, just because I blame Obama for the $5 Trillion he's cost us in three years doesn't mean that he's the only one I blame. Hold your horses, youngster! You assume and you know what happens when you do that! I only stated that he is the worst culprit. Woodrow Wilson got the ball rollling. Warren Harding fixed it, but Republican Herb Hoover and his Democratic controlled congress screwed it up again - and it got fixed again when Harry Truman learned from both Hoover's and Roosevelt's mistakes - and those were biggies. Then, Ike maintained things, but Kennedy and Johnson really had to fark things up and the rest is history. I think you need to pay more attention to the books and less to your X-box, youngster.
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I see the problem as a fiscal policy problem, not a monetary policy problem
The Fed, like the Bank of England, the Bank of Canada and the ECB, has a pretty narrow brief: use the monetary and interest rate policy levels under its control to exercise broad influence over leading economic indicators. In Canada and Britain, that's primarily inflation. In the US, it's a broader mix of indicators.
But looking at the United States, I think we can opine that the Fed is actually keeping a pretty clear eye on its mandate. Inflation has not run roughshod through the economy as it did in the 70's. Interest rates have not been sent sky high to prevent the economy from overheating in the 80's. For all the difficulties, the fundamentals of US dollar value continue to be strong.
The problem, as I see it, is not with the Fed at all. It's with Congress.
Congress wilfully refuses to enact a fiscal policy that is consistent with the needs of the country. In this respect, the US Congress is no different from the Greek Parliament. The only functional difference is that folks still run to the US dollar in tough times, which means that the rest of the world is financing the US fiscal policy deficit.
If Congress grew a pair, and started taxing the US economy at a rate that was required to meet its public sector expenditures, then the disconnect between fiscal policy and monetary policy would shrink, and the Fed could start to exercise a tightening up of the money supply without creating a deflationary spiral. But what are the chances that Congress will grow a pair?
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| Longshanks wrote: | | Delphiki wrote: | | Longshanks wrote: | | ArrantPariah wrote: | | Can you provide a succinct argument for the president being a puppet of Federal Reserve bankers? That is quite a lot of material to watch. |
An argument could be very orthodoxly made on the grounds that Congress gave up it's right to print money to the Federal Reserve - which is owned by private banks - two thirds of which are in Europe. But there are some glitches that need to be explained. First, congress could easily take the bank's powers away. Second, Obama is Oh, bummer, when it comes to the banks because no president has ever cost them more money - and as a tax accountant I have to pay attention to stuff like that. I think the member banks will enjoy seeing him go into retirement. Third, if Obama would actually have listened to them - which he didn't, we wouldn't be in as deep a pile of economic feces as we are now.
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Well seeing as how the economic problems we have been having started with the policies 30 years ago, oh wait nevermind, let's just blame Obama. |
Oh, just because I blame Obama for the $5 Trillion he's cost us in three years doesn't mean that he's the only one I blame. Hold your horses, youngster! You assume and you know what happens when you do that! I only stated that he is the worst culprit. Woodrow Wilson got the ball rollling. Warren Harding fixed it, but Republican Herb Hoover and his Democratic controlled congress screwed it up again - and it got fixed again when Harry Truman learned from both Hoover's and Roosevelt's mistakes - and those were biggies. Then, Ike maintained things, but Kennedy and Johnson really had to fark things up and the rest is history. I think you need to pay more attention to the books and less to your X-box, youngster.
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If you want me to take you seriously then try to keep out sentences such as what I bolded. The first part "oh just because" isn't all that bad. Now you didn't call youngster once, you did it twice.  Sure I might be young compared to you but having to show your dominance in such a way makes it appear that you think you are inferior or scared of me and I do not have the faintest idea why. I assumed that because I haven't seen you complain about anyone else out of the time I have been here. You make a go at me for assuming and then you assume I play xbox all day  I don't even have a game system.
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| Delphiki wrote: | | Longshanks wrote: | | Delphiki wrote: | | Longshanks wrote: | | ArrantPariah wrote: | | Can you provide a succinct argument for the president being a puppet of Federal Reserve bankers? That is quite a lot of material to watch. |
An argument could be very orthodoxly made on the grounds that Congress gave up it's right to print money to the Federal Reserve - which is owned by private banks - two thirds of which are in Europe. But there are some glitches that need to be explained. First, congress could easily take the bank's powers away. Second, Obama is Oh, bummer, when it comes to the banks because no president has ever cost them more money - and as a tax accountant I have to pay attention to stuff like that. I think the member banks will enjoy seeing him go into retirement. Third, if Obama would actually have listened to them - which he didn't, we wouldn't be in as deep a pile of economic feces as we are now.
Longshanks |
Well seeing as how the economic problems we have been having started with the policies 30 years ago, oh wait nevermind, let's just blame Obama. |
Oh, just because I blame Obama for the $5 Trillion he's cost us in three years doesn't mean that he's the only one I blame. Hold your horses, youngster! You assume and you know what happens when you do that! I only stated that he is the worst culprit. Woodrow Wilson got the ball rollling. Warren Harding fixed it, but Republican Herb Hoover and his Democratic controlled congress screwed it up again - and it got fixed again when Harry Truman learned from both Hoover's and Roosevelt's mistakes - and those were biggies. Then, Ike maintained things, but Kennedy and Johnson really had to fark things up and the rest is history. I think you need to pay more attention to the books and less to your X-box, youngster.
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If you want me to take you seriously then try to keep out sentences such as what I bolded. The first part "oh just because" isn't all that bad. Now you didn't call youngster once, you did it twice. Sure I might be young compared to you but having to show your dominance in such a way makes it appear that you think you are inferior or scared of me and I do not have the faintest idea why. I assumed that because I haven't seen you complain about anyone else out of the time I have been here. You make a go at me for assuming and then you assume I play xbox all day I don't even have a game system. |
Actually, it is your know-it-all attitude that causes me to not to take you seriously as well as be consecending toward you. Perhaps if you would address me in a more adult manner, you might actually get some respect from me.
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I did not know that it appeared that I have a know-it-all attitude. I know I am not knowledgeable in a lot of different areas, as is the same with everyone. I will try to make sure my posts do not have that voice to them. I just made a small jab at you, which you thoroughly showed that is not your view on it, and you complained about me assuming, and you made multiple assumptions right after that. How does that make sense to do?
Now if you had said "enough with the jabs" then you would have kept with your "adult manner" instead of acting like a youngster and lashing out at me.
You just said that know-it-all attitude= youngster. I guess most politicians and lawyers are youngsters also.
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| Longshanks wrote: | | Actually, it is your know-it-all attitude that causes me to not to take you seriously as well as be consecending toward you. Perhaps if you would address me in a more adult manner, you might actually get some respect from me. |
Longshanks, stop being so damn patronising. That X-Box comment was snotty, ageist crap and your whole tone is undeservedly pompous.
I know you like to claim you're descended from royalty (aren't we all ) but please leave the "king speaking to peasants" attitude outside WP. You'll stand more chance of earning respect, instead of impotently demanding it, when you allow people to hold differing opinions to yours and are more prepared to discuss and explain - instead of being condescending.
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| Penn Jillete wrote: | | We should be skeptical to governments—but we shouldn't just make sh|t up. |
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| Longshanks wrote: | | First, congress could easily take the bank's powers away. |
that is where you are dead wrong. |
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Meh, I think it goes a bit deeper then that...so not sure I totally buy this specific theory.
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