aghogday
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| auntblabby wrote: | ^^^
thank you for that, adhogday- that was very constructive and useful, better than i could've done.  |
Your welcome. The government has always had a hard time communicating instructions to the general public, as they don't often offer options outside of a narrow focus. 9/11 has made government much more complicated than it was before. Hanyo's example provides evidence that it has become almost too complicated to survive in unless one fits a mainstream expectation of the citizens, per the average individual that is obligated to renew a driver's license on a regular basis. |
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auntblabby
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:38 am Post subject: |
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| aghogday wrote: | | The government has always had a hard time communicating instructions to the general public, as they don't often offer options outside of a narrow focus. 9/11 has made government much more complicated than it was before. Hanyo's example provides evidence that it has become almost too complicated to survive in unless one fits a mainstream expectation of the citizens, per the average individual that is obligated to renew a driver's license on a regular basis. |
about 2 decades ago i worked with a guy who was very prescient, he predicted that in the coming years there would be a form of fascism in this country that would ride in on the coattails of some man-made disaster- and that as a result we would become a much more authoritarian country than we were, and that life for people who were "outside of the norm" would [at the hands of both society and government] get a lot meaner... he prayed that he would not live to see that day coming. i wonder how he knew? |
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hanyo
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:52 am Post subject: |
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Looking at the list you provided it states that 6 points are only required if you don't have a social security card. According to that first paragraph, you only need 4 points to qualify.
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Actually I'm still 2 points short because as they explained to me at the dmv you need 6 points no matter what. It says you need 4 points if you have a social security card because that is worth 2 points. I have a total of 4 points. |
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aghogday
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:19 am Post subject: |
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| hanyo wrote: | | aghogday wrote: |
Looking at the list you provided it states that 6 points are only required if you don't have a social security card. According to that first paragraph, you only need 4 points to qualify.
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Actually I'm still 2 points short because as they explained to me at the dmv you need 6 points no matter what. It says you need 4 points if you have a social security card because that is worth 2 points. I have a total of 4 points. |
"4 points of proof of your name along with your social security card"
I can see how that makes sense, but it would have made more sense to me if they had stated in addition to instead of along with.
Since the rules basically make it impossible for you to meet the requirements or anyone else in your circumstances, it seems like you still have a valid argument for an alternative option that you can reasonably make as a human being. Considering not having a state ID is going to make it impossible to get a checking account, or a bank account to gain the additional points.
It is possible that you will need a state ID at some point in time in the future, to gain subsistence benefits, so I would definitely pursue the issue by email to you democratic representative, still bringing up any extenuating circumstances, along with the fact that your mother can verify your identity as her name is likely on the birth certificate, as well as your rights as a citizen to vote are being circumvented by this policy.
There have to be a lot of people in your circumstance considering how many young adults live at home with their parents, don't drive, and haven't needed a state ID, as they may not have a checking or savings account. Particularly anyone with a disability or chronic illness. I don't see how your democratic representative could let this go without providing some kind reasonable response back to you, instead of the kind of response you got from your DMV office. The representative should have already encountered an issue like this since you likely aren't the only one.
I would definitely bring up the autism issue if it is applicable. Sorry, I haven't checked your profile, to see whether or not you are diagnosed, but if you are self diagnosed and can't afford a diagnosis, it is still a relevant issue. |
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