cozysweater
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Bad and persistant body odor can be a sign of medical problems, so I find it hard to believe that your concern wouldn't be taken seriously by a doctor. Also, it would be something that they might bring up to you.
This caught my eye though:
| Moronerd wrote: | | I'll start with the initial part, how I'm convinced I have a persistent odor. I think I mentioned the signs people give when I get close or open my mouth to speak. They cover their faces or act like they can't breathe. Sometimes I'll hear someone say behind me, "What's that smell?" And another will go "It's that guy." |
If you've been diagnosed with schizophrenia, could the above experience be part of the disorder?
There's a really interesting series of articles about the experiences of people with different diagnoses: NY Times Lives Restored Series
In particular, I thought this bit was really interesting:
| Quote: | He caught the first glimpse of an answer one afternoon in 1996, when his boss invited him out to lunch.
He was anxious, expecting bad news. Now married, he was providing for Patsy, a teenage stepson and three foster children the couple were planning to adopt. Working at a health clinic in Kansas City, he needed more income and job security, not less.
And that is what he got at lunch — a promotion. “We were having a great time, laughing and celebrating, and at the end my boss says she’s going to the ladies’ room,” he said. “But just before she leaves, I hear her say something awful, just terrible — she insults me. Loudly.”
He stood there by the door, stung and confused, until she returned. The jab made no sense, given the spirit of the occasion, but it was still ringing in his ears.
“By the way, did you hear someone say,” he asked, repeating the insult.
She was dumbfounded. So was he, doing his best to pretend he was joking.
By the time he climbed back into his car, he was short of breath. Could it be that all those nasty remarks over the years, those biting insults from out of nowhere, did not exist, except in his own head?
How many times had he falsely accused people, Patsy especially? Hundreds? Thousands? Called her a liar. Made a scene. Erupted, for no reason at all. He was the same way with his stepson.
All those lost jobs, too: welding, painting, bartending, sales, flipping burgers, landscaping, bodyguard, chef, librarian. More than 30 of them. Nothing lasted for long.
“Sometimes I would just run away — literally take off,” he said. “I would get so afraid of people, customers, anyone, afraid of what they would say to me.” |
Full NY Times story |
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AardvarkGoodSwimmer
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| Moronerd wrote: | | . . . So staying a little angry and not giving a damn whether they fire me is going to be how I play it. Another mantra I'm sticking to is I'm not there to make friends, because worrying about who doesn't like me adds to my stress ten-fold. I want to thank the people who replied. |
I like this approach. It's the James Coburn attitude, Don't particular give a damn one way or the other. It also reminds me what Herb Cohen talked about in his book (late 70s or early 80s!) You Can Negotiate Anything, where the party to a negotiation who cares more typically loses. The guy also wrote the book Negotiate This!: By Caring, But Not T-H-A-T Much, which I read some of but not all of (and sometimes that's all that's needed!).
I also like the approach, not there to make friends. The funny thing is, people may then seek you out, funny football story, something going on in their life which they have a strong need to tell someone.
I've kind of decided, friendly acquaintance maybe, but the whole set-up of a job tends to work against more genuine friendship. |
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Moronerd
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SpiritBlooms: I read your reply and while I don't remember all of what you said there, I was really touched by what you said, about how I shouldn't have to accept or live with the reactions I'm getting. I'm a little concerned as I thought maybe you were mad at me and that's why you erased your post, but then checked your history and see you did it for others as well. I don't have much else to say other than I hope you're well.
Neueziel: It could be diet, but I'm never sure how long I should take it and it's very discouraging when you don't get immediate results days or weeks after making changes. Human biology as I take it (I'm hardly an expert), is slow to react to such changes, especially when the problem is so entrenched. And then you see people who are obese and can eat whatever they want and smell more or less fine as long as they wash up.
thewhitrbbit: This problem started to arise when I was around 18 years old, coinciding with the beginning of physical maturity and also my first regular access to the internet. The correlation, if there is any, would be fascinating if it weren't for the consequences to me.
Cozysweater: I was diagnosed with schizophrenia and psychotic disorder. My first diagnosis the first time I went to a shrink was actually Aspergers Syndrome, but doctors I saw later all disagreed with it. Being somewhat gullible and suggestible, I went along with that idea. I still haven't made up my mind, but acknowledge that the label has little bearing on me apart from what it tells me is shared between me and other people. It makes it easier to seek and find help and development, basically, but no other benefit besides.
As for the smell or fear of smelling being a symptom of this, I don't think so. Hearing disembodied voices or hallucinations has never been a feature of my own instance of psychosis. When I'm with people, I'll hear their voices talking in tones just shy of being inaudible, catching hints some subtle and others less so as I mentioned earlier in the thread. I doubt my subconscious mind is so devious as to put up such a fine, persistent, and detailed act. If it was, I would hope I could make better use for it than to keep myself tied down. Mainly the feature of my supposed schizophrenia that is most disruptive is the fear or apprehension toward other people and fearing that I'm being followed, watched, or that there is some harm plotted or threatened against me. This always gets in the way when I try to be productive, in fact today I'm having serious reservations about going into work. I keep thinking that today is the day they're going to do me in. Things my brother says or other people I have difficulty trusting, little catches of conversation that seem almost too portentous. People saying the words dead, death, killing, or when these words or meanings are implied through opposites or spoken code. The only thing that makes me consider that I shouldn't go with my instincts is the thought of letting my family down, and the more I consider that, I can't help but resign myself to fate, however grandly dismal it is.
Aardvark: So I guess your special interest is Hollywood, based on the references and the acting coach? Also, the high voice you mentioned, I have it too, and often seem to get mistaken for a gay guy. It doesn't help that I haven't had a meaningful relationship with a girl, ever. But when people use that as proof, they conveniently glaze over the fact that I've never had one with a man either. This is another thing that triggers a bit of paranoia and angst. I don't really want a relationship at this point, anyway, I just want to play video games, read and write. |
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SpiritBlooms
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| Moronerd wrote: | SpiritBlooms: I read your reply and while I don't remember all of what you said there, I was really touched by what you said, about how I shouldn't have to accept or live with the reactions I'm getting. I'm a little concerned as I thought maybe you were mad at me and that's why you erased your post, but then checked your history and see you did it for others as well. I don't have much else to say other than I hope you're well.
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I'm sorry. I should have probably explained somewhere why I did that. I was getting so hooked on this forum that I needed to take a break from it, and deleting the posts I was able to (you can only edit for up to a week) seemed a good way to discourage myself from returning so often. It had nothing to do with anyone but me. I'm sorry if I made you feel badly. |
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1000Knives
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One thing for body odor I have a problem with sometimes. If your shoes smell, you smell. So even if your body is fine, if your shoes smell, the smell will come off your shoes to the rest of the world. So use thicker socks to absorb sweat and use a lot of foot powder in the shoes.
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| Moronerd wrote: | | I do have problems with hyperhydrosis, but the quality of feedback, as voluminous and vehement as it has been, leaves me with little to consider in the way of details. |
I recently heard something on the local news about a procedure to stop sweating being performed in New Orleans; it was the 1st time it was done around here.
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