Asperger syndrome and Libertarianism idea

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This socialist Aspie thinks Libertarians are selfish jerks who haven't emotionally matured past the "I don't want to and you can't make me!! !" stage, which is why they idolize Ayn Rand's crap.

Im a liberitarian.

Liberty, freedom, right to private. property and a space to retreat too, live and let live philosophy, and right to entreprenure endevours aall appeal to me.

I lived in a socialist experimental house and was quickly ostrasized for my sensory issues. Socialism is not for me. I like playing with fireworks, fighting and having a beer in a tree much better. Its nice having a yard where a can sping in circles outside without the treat of being mobbed by teenaged boys or 51-50ed by the po po.

I find that the liberty and privacy and marketing opportunities liberitarinism allows for go quite well with my life here with aspergers. Not sure how anyone could find that insulting. The far left seem to be insulted by everything: another reason liberitarianism goes well with aspergers: No politically correctness b.s.

Anyone thinking socialism is the way to go needs to spend time in an actual socialist country. Venezuela is a good start. North Korea is a good place too. Then spend some time in Switzerland, a good example of a country with strong Libertarian bend. Where is the best place to live? I leave that to you.

I have to mention National Socialism, what was it like to live there?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD0LGY9lMRM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN0C6EgPv8o

A good comparison is North Korea,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24R8JObNNQ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw46Ll-Zy4s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HJj85K_7MQ

One of the common threads is hypocrisy taken to extremes, I could not imagine any aspie enjoying this.

One of my favorite libertarian characters is Benjamin Franklin



This guy talks about America, he thinks we currently are heading to socialism.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO5Gayz4NNw[/youtube]

In recent times I have come to recognise that the reason why I used to get angry (and sometime still do) about certain situations I see, is because I have always been a libertarian at heart. I just didn't know in my childhood what libertarianism was.

For instance, one thing that always makes my blood boil in the idea of national service, young men being conscripted into the army. I watched a BBC documentary on this in around 1997 and watching the conscripts get sworn at, intimidated and bullied about my the sargents made me very angry. I was angry that, only within the lifetime of my Grandparents, this was allowed to happen, and worse still, national service is viewed today positively by some, instead of being seen as an international outrage like slavery (which it is) and demanding of a public apology and financial compensation for its victims.

The main principle here, in this most extreme example and in other less extreme examples, is that I was angry that people were forced into do things, forced to obey rules, which are not necessary for society to function. Why should the teacher tell the scruffy kid to 'tuck your shirt in,' when actually no-one serves to benefit from whether the shirt is in or out, and there is actually no reason for the rule, there is no victim if the rule is broken? This is a situation that makes me angry (seen this on 'Educating Yorkshire'). Someone imposes a rule upon people, which is totally unnecessary, we can function fine without that rule in place, but nonetheless the boss still insists it be done in that way. That I have a problem with.

I am conservative, pro tea party, probably could be considered a libertarian, not many here though.

Around 1948 the house committee of un American activities put out a booklet titled "1001 ways to tell a communist" maby 101 ways, I forget,

It predicts how the party's would be infiltrated, and people "conditioned". It basically predicted the last 30 to 40 years, not sure where to get a copy, found mine at a yard sale.

Knowing people from ussr and nations with socialized health care, Canada, England, socialism and socialized health may be the last thing a person with a disability would want, most said you only get what's absolutely necessary to keep you alive, if it is cheaper to amputate then save your leg, etc, off it goes, if you are not considered productive, disabled, or too old, or not essential, you may not get treated for cancer, etc, if it is more cost effective to let you die, if it is cheaper to put you in an institution then medicate, or provide an assistant, off you go. An Englishman told me what he does, what country to go to for what, all I remember now is that I think he said Germany had the best dentists in the world, I think he said you get put on waiting lists for medical conditions, sometimes people die before getting treated, if he has the money he goes where the best dr he can afford is, no insurance coverage for that.

There are many ideals of socialism that attract people, but looking at history and talking to people who lived it, you don't want it, you only get what is needed to live, may not have job choices, if you don't do your job, you go to prison, only get a car if gov feels you need it, may need permits to travel, paid according to needs, janitor may get higher pay then dr, if he has more kids then the dr. Poor quality, if you don't like your job you may do absolute minimum needed,

Basically socialists feel, people are not capable of running their own lives and mist be directed or guided their whole life,

Conservative or libertarian, it's your life, go live it, if you need help, ask and if possible, we will do what we can

Most people with Autism wouldn't survive in the extreme social darwinist society of the libertarian ideal..........

So many generalizations going on here - a negative point of view toward Libertarians and Asperger people; very shallow indeed, and an attempt at making Aspergers into a political phenomenon. I resent this and reject such careless stereotyping. This is the kind of stuff we expect from dumb NTs who know nothing about Aspergers.

^^ I agree. Autism is a neurological condition, not a philosophy nor a political ideology.


On the other hand, as a opinion of a human being, I do not like libertarianism. But I'm not an expert on this topic and I don't want to discuss anything.

I think people are confusing Libertarian and Egalitarian. There is plenty of info on the net about both.

The problem with Libertarianism is that it also relies on everyone having the Asperger overdeveloped sense of morality and fairness, and also the Asperger tendency to observe the rules as a guideline for behavior rather than tools to be exploited.

It is, in short, unworkable in an NT-dominated society.

Libertarianism gave us the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire, the textile wars, the mine wars, and the Plains wars.

It's a nice idea, but as it relies on human goodness to sustain any degree of humanity in society, it is simply not viable.