The coup d'etat in Ukraine?

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Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych has been deprived of power.
President Yanukovych says that the was coup d'etat.

And you like what you think?

It appears the Parliament of Ukraine has assumed control for now. I understand there's an election coming up in May. Perhaps the recently released from jail Prime Minister Yulia will become president?

Goodbye old leader.

Meet new leader, same as old. XD

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The president ordered the police to shoot protesters, so he's not exactly a great guy.

tug of war between the US/EU and Russia. Whoever wins, Ukraine loses.

Why do you say that? Is there another option that would be better for Ukraine?

agree

Any people have a right to replace their governmnet, America by a simple vote.

Next comes the problem, forming a government that can rule.

As Putin pointed out, they were never a Nation, they were an administrative district of the USSR, made up of part Russia, part Poland, Hungary, Romania. They speak about four languages.

The west overthrew the government, the Russian speaking east supported it. That split, plus the Russian navel base at Crimea, the discount price they have been getting on gas, a third off the market price, which they still cannot pay, and other Russian supports that have held them up, where their own actions would have them eating rats and bugs by now. A new Black Sea pipeline bypasses them for delivering gas to Europe.

Along the border with Moldovia, is Transnitsia, no one reconizes it, but it is not only Russian speaking, but they miss Stalin.

The west that overthrew the government cannot rule the country, without the support of the rest, and they do not have it. The old leader supported Russia, because more than half the vote was Russian speakers.

A new election is going to be dominated by the Russian vote.

The old agreement was power sharing between groups, till one faction overthrew it. The new system will be majority rule, and that is Russian. Those who overthrew the last will be excluded.

The new economic system will be the Russian speakers having access to Russian gas and money, and the rest can eat rats and bugs, unless the US/EU feeds them. They can buy gas at market, for cash.

Like Georgia, that used to sell almost all of their wine to Russia, and now are barred from that market.

None of the other countries, Belarus, and others are going to give them credit, so where will they get cars, trucks, tractors, and spare parts for Russian machines?

They have serious debt and high interest.

They needed the $15 Billion Russia was going to supply, just to stay afloat, and now they need a lot more.

They are going to defaullt on their Euro Bond debt, plus need as much again to survive.

These are the people with some of the richest wheat lands, where 30 million died in a famine.

They will have no one to blame but themselves.

I know the Interior Minister, who signed the order to shoot protestors, needed to go (and to jail!), but I'm not sure about the rest of the government.

I think a proper coup requires a bit more effort. This was a President running away. Even the Russians think he's a fool and their state run media called him "the most useless man on earth".

is not really the parliament, certainly not that elected. The programme being forced through is nothing like what corresponds with the voting of that election. It seems that there are armed gangs who are "persuading" people to vote in certain ways.

The decision to use live ammo came after the protesters began shooting at people... there is footage confirming the presence of gunmen amongst the so-called peaceful protesters. Also there were looted armouries in western Ukraine and those weapons ended up in the hands of these brownshirt militias...

The coup was well-organised and there were gangs or armed militiamen in Kiev. As for Yanukovich, he was effectively a creature of Donetsk oligarch Rinat Akhmetov, who was behind the surrender with the predictable results. The "deal" that was immediately broken involved pulling out Yanukovich's forces and allowing the opposition to take over, and supposedly the EU was to stop them from doing that, but they never had any intention of doing so. Akhmetov owns a very presitgious European football club, Shakhtar Donetsk, and owns property in western Europe and hobnobs with the glitterati. He was threatened with sanctions by the EU over any attempts to stop the neo-Nazi thugs and so when that happened he told Yanukovich to give in.

China! Nataliya Vitrenko suggested so much.

I've heard from people over there they would prefer no government at this point.

There were organized actions on both sides.

But the army refused to back him, his party deserted him and unanimously voted to remove him from power, his own security officers walked away from his private home after he fled in the middle of the night. And he left behind enough records to get himself prosecuted. Even his Russian backers think he's a joke now.