Asie men vs Aspie women: Who has it easier?

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14 Apr 2014, 9:49 pm

Personally, I'm not entirely convinced that anyone is ever entirely emotionally mature (myself included). I do think that some percentage of the population, NT and ASD alike, have learned to "fake it 'til you make it." :lol:



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15 Apr 2014, 2:52 am

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Why is getting married in one's 20s a measure of "having it easier"? I don't believe that most men or women of that age, NT or Aspie, are emotionally mature enough to make a lifelong commitment. Since my parents' generation, I don't know of one single marriage that occurred with one or both of the couple in their 20s where they are still married.


Are you saying that those *plenty* of young married aspie women here (20-23) are emotionally immature?

Well, if that's true, then it's a stronger indication that it's easier for them :lol:.


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If Aspies mature emotionally more slowly than NTs, doesn't it make more sense to get married at a later age than NTs typically do?


True but for some odd reason, a lot of WP women get married very young. In fact, more frequent than what I see in my Middle Eastern surrounding which is ironic.


i'm an aspie female and i've made it to 34 without getting married. dating has never been easy for me, and no one has ever thought my social awkwardness was "cute", only annoying. women are supposed to be social facilitators, we are told our whole lives it's our most important role in society. from that perspective i am not "adorably awkward", i am useless.


Very true that, which is why the common argument here (regarding gender ration) that "Aspie women go under the radar hence why undiagnosed" doesn't make sense at all, a lot of women here insist that the real ratio is 1:1 but I don't believe this is true at all; and if they really go under the radar as they claim that doesn't explain the gender ratio in low-functioning autism, which is an obvious condition to specialists unless AS is a totally separate condition from classic autism, a classic female autistic is as obvious as a male classic autistic.

No, I strongly believe there's a genetic factor in the gender disparity even if it's not yet discovered.



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15 Apr 2014, 3:07 am

Aspie women have it far easier because of their ability to sell their sex; it doesn't matter how disenfranchised a woman is, in the end she will always be able to sell her sex to find a partner. Men don't have that option.

Which reminds me of something i heard from a book, "Female victims attract men, male victims repel everyone", might be paraphrasing abit, but the book was called 'The Myth of Male Power'.



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15 Apr 2014, 3:53 am

Klowglas wrote:
Aspie women have it far easier because of their ability to sell their sex; it doesn't matter how disenfranchised a woman is, in the end she will always be able to sell her sex to find a partner. Men don't have that option.

Which reminds me of something i heard from a book, "Female victims attract men, male victims repel everyone", might be paraphrasing abit, but the book was called 'The Myth of Male Power'.


I have the privilege of being able to be a kept prostitute. Just what I've always wanted.
And of course, "finding a partner" is the only goal that anyone might ever have in life. And noone has ever, ever been used for sex and tossed aside, because the type of men who will use someone for sex without considering their personality or anything else are kind, decent men who would never mistreat anyone.


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15 Apr 2014, 3:58 am

Klowglas wrote:
Aspie women have it far easier because of their ability to sell their sex; it doesn't matter how disenfranchised a woman is, in the end she will always be able to sell her sex to find a partner. Men don't have that option.

Which reminds me of something i heard from a book, "Female victims attract men, male victims repel everyone", might be paraphrasing abit, but the book was called 'The Myth of Male Power'.


The male power is only true for the millionaire/rich/CEO men and in some backward countries but it is not true for the average men, who are over 90%.



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15 Apr 2014, 4:03 am

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Aspie women have it far easier because of their ability to sell their sex; it doesn't matter how disenfranchised a woman is, in the end she will always be able to sell her sex to find a partner. Men don't have that option.

Which reminds me of something i heard from a book, "Female victims attract men, male victims repel everyone", might be paraphrasing abit, but the book was called 'The Myth of Male Power'.


I have the privilege of being able to be a kept prostitute. Just what I've always wanted.
And of course, "finding a partner" is the only goal that anyone might ever have in life. And noone has ever, ever been used for sex and tossed aside, because the type of men who will use someone for sex without considering their personality or anything else are kind, decent men who would never mistreat anyone.


I don't think he meant by "selling sex" is always in prostitution fashion but as using it as an indirect advantage.

Just ask the user Eureka13 about her bimbo colleagues, and what they do to get hired or get away of things, it's more selling their sex appeal than selling sex. It's something we discussed earlier and It's a fact in the office life, in western and eastern civilizations alike.



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15 Apr 2014, 4:05 am

Nobody has it easier, we all determine what is difficult for ourselves, what one thinks is difficult another may not. How we perceive the same challenges in life will vary from person to person.

With that said, each persons life is their own so our experiences are individual, therefor our struggles are individual, so mesuring the two becomes obsolete.


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15 Apr 2014, 4:12 am

Klowglas wrote:
Aspie women have it far easier because of their ability to sell their sex; it doesn't matter how disenfranchised a woman is, in the end she will always be able to sell her sex to find a partner. Men don't have that option.


Wow, what a happy life for us! "Hello, you don't even like me, I'll just let you ram your repulsive organ into me, and rope you into a relationship you don't actually want so I throw you scraps in the form of blowjobs and sex" Wow, what a life. I have no idea why I didn't see this from the beginning, you should write a book on clarity and wisdom!

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Which reminds me of something i heard from a book, "Female victims attract men, male victims repel everyone", might be paraphrasing abit, but the book was called 'The Myth of Male Power'.


Male and Female victims actually attract very abusive people.
Sadly, I have been one. I know first hand.



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15 Apr 2014, 4:43 am

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Aspie women have it far easier because of their ability to sell their sex; it doesn't matter how disenfranchised a woman is, in the end she will always be able to sell her sex to find a partner. Men don't have that option.


Wow, what a happy life for us! "Hello, you don't even like me, I'll just let you ram your repulsive organ into me, and rope you into a relationship you don't actually want so I throw you scraps in the form of blowjobs and sex" Wow, what a life. I have no idea why I didn't see this from the beginning, you should write a book on clarity and wisdom!

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Which reminds me of something i heard from a book, "Female victims attract men, male victims repel everyone", might be paraphrasing abit, but the book was called 'The Myth of Male Power'.


Male and Female victims actually attract very abusive people.
Sadly, I have been one. I know first hand.
Tell me about it been there done that it sucks whether your male or female its just easier for me to avoid most people to avoid attracting abusive people.


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15 Apr 2014, 4:55 am

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Klowglas wrote:
Aspie women have it far easier because of their ability to sell their sex; it doesn't matter how disenfranchised a woman is, in the end she will always be able to sell her sex to find a partner. Men don't have that option.


Wow, what a happy life for us! "Hello, you don't even like me, I'll just let you ram your repulsive organ into me, and rope you into a relationship you don't actually want so I throw you scraps in the form of blowjobs and sex" Wow, what a life. I have no idea why I didn't see this from the beginning, you should write a book on clarity and wisdom!



HA HA HA! :lol:

Yes! I was thinking something similar.


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15 Apr 2014, 5:03 am

Yes I wasn't talking about prostitution, but the fact that a woman can use sex to draw in potential partners regardless of her circumstance.

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Aspie women have it far easier because of their ability to sell their sex; it doesn't matter how disenfranchised a woman is, in the end she will always be able to sell her sex to find a partner. Men don't have that option.


Wow, what a happy life for us! "Hello, you don't even like me, I'll just let you ram your repulsive organ into me, and rope you into a relationship you don't actually want so I throw you scraps in the form of blowjobs and sex" Wow, what a life. I have no idea why I didn't see this from the beginning, you should write a book on clarity and wisdom!



and is this supposed to be a bad thing? In the end she still has his companionship, and even if it started as something that was purely carnal, it doesn't mean that something else can't grow from that. But it's a great option if a woman is faced with total ostrizization. Men don't have that option.

I'd be giddy If I could escape from my loneliness by offering sex to a woman, but since men are unable to sell their sex in this fashion it means they have to face total obscurity and become invisible, which is something much worse than the above.

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Which reminds me of something i heard from a book, "Female victims attract men, male victims repel everyone", might be paraphrasing abit, but the book was called 'The Myth of Male Power'.


Male and Female victims actually attract very abusive people.
Sadly, I have been one. I know first hand.


But the male victims are invisible -- they don't attract men or women, and the book cites the homeless and the prison populations, which are filled with overwhelmingly males. These men fell through the cracks of society and they became invisible, this ostracization imparted unto them a sense of powerlessness which fed into their criminal behavior... the book also goes on to state that men commit crime when there's a discrepancy between his expectations to provide, and his ability to do so, thus the connection between poverty and crime.

The is a sad thing that I see in many of the aspie males here, when the male is powerless it mean they become invisible to both genders, but the woman has the power of selling her sex as safety-net because regardless of circumstance it will always attract males, but the male whose a victim of this disenfranchisement needs to face total obscurity, and it's this sort of stuff that can breed monsters like Adam Lanza who was also an aspie.



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Klowglas wrote:
Yes I wasn't talking about prostitution, but the fact that a woman can use sex to draw in potential partners regardless of her circumstance.

hale_bopp wrote:
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Aspie women have it far easier because of their ability to sell their sex; it doesn't matter how disenfranchised a woman is, in the end she will always be able to sell her sex to find a partner. Men don't have that option.


Wow, what a happy life for us! "Hello, you don't even like me, I'll just let you ram your repulsive organ into me, and rope you into a relationship you don't actually want so I throw you scraps in the form of blowjobs and sex" Wow, what a life. I have no idea why I didn't see this from the beginning, you should write a book on clarity and wisdom!



and is this supposed to be a bad thing? In the end she still has his companionship, and even if it started as something that was purely carnal, it doesn't mean that something else can't grow from that. But it's a great option if a woman is faced with total ostrizization. Men don't have that option.

I'd be giddy If I could escape from my loneliness by offering sex to a woman, but since men are unable to sell their sex in this fashion it means they have to face total obscurity and become invisible, which is something much worse than the above.



For some women it is a bad thing, maybe not all women want their "worth" to only be a sexual object.
Maybe companionship really isn't worth it to them if that is all they are good for.


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15 Apr 2014, 5:15 am

It depends on the individual.


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I was just curious as to what people think about the question. I feel that men have it easier as men seen as quirky and socially awkward are seen in a better light than women who are seen to have those same traits. What are your thoughts?


I'd say it's the other way around. Social awkwardness in women, whether we're talking job interviews or dating, is usually seen as endearing, as well as "cute and quirky".]


Yop, I am sure, thats the reason, why I needed to to a job-interview training, to become less social awkward and afraid, until I finally managed to get my first job. ^^


And its why I have been so successful in finding and keeping a job :roll:


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both have it hard,it just aspie men have it alot worst.


All of them?


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15 Apr 2014, 5:22 am

Men are more likely to be single and homeless, but women are more likely to be homeless with children. However the majority of all homeless people are single males making over 70% in most surveys.

That should tell you something: Males with no jobs have no value in society and jobless single moms are seen less valuable and "damaged goods" than jobless single women.