If there was a designated country for Aspies

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Makes this aspie nation even less appealing.

You might as well vote me off the island too.

I say f+++++ the island...i don't want to be separate from everyone, I like people of all kind of neurodiversities, and don't want to be segregated.

I SECOND THAT..

i am human first..

everything else
is

second..
now as ONE!

Divide and fall..
unify
and stand..

This essence of truth..

never
changes....
for humanity...
all
as
ONE
every diversity
as
ONE!

Well, I think there should be an island. That way I can run for mayor, and eventually kick everyone off the island. Than I will sell it to some real estate conglomerate, and keep the profit. Like I said earlier. Eventually everyone will get kicked off the island . Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!! !! !! !! !

The idea reminds me of that movie Wonderlust. I wouldn't be going there anytime soon either.

Accepted.
I'll build whatever you want & run it, but you have to get someone else to design, name, and style it as well as organize funding for hosting & a domain. Agreed?


The first step, generally, is to design it (pages, heirarchies, layouts & functionalities) & put together content (content includes media, text, & links).
Then we decide on a basis (from scratch, framework, or CMS based).
Then a developer like me builds the functional site, a front end/ux guy styles it to make it look good & be user friendly, and then you get a domain & hosting & we go live.
Pretty simple, actually, done it plenty of times.

I really think the idea of a phyle, an artificial tribe with scattered members but claiming & defending sovereignty & rights for said members, would be the right way to go if we're really serious about doing something like this. That way we could have small enclaves in various places without the problems associated with having to acquire, govern, and defend a landmass of some sort, which as others have pointed out is impractical.
For those unfamiliar with the concept who are having trouble understanding it I reccommend reading Neal Stephenson's The Diamond Age which describe a future society in which many people belong to scattered tribes & phyles which retain their identities & rights no matter where they travel, within certain limitations of course. It's a great read as well.

Or, check out the article at P2P Foundation.

I've started a thread in this forum, "AutistHub.net?", for further discussion of the matter. Hopefully we can get someone with experience at design, but what I have in mind is something that is mainly forum and wiki based to start. Perhaps Vicky will contribute a page to start the wiki, outlining the community she is working on?

Hey, nice article!
I never knew the concept had become so advanced since I first read about it in The Diamond Age, but I always felt drawn to the idea.
I'm actually not surprised that people have seized upon this idea initially introduced in fiction, I always thought it was one of the most genius of Stephenson's socio-political ideas.
Everyone should still read the book, even though it's an excellent article.
I feel like the article abstracts the concept too much maybe, while the book really fleshes out what it means and could mean.
In any case, it's a great idea if we could get it up & running.

Ok, well, I'm not entirely familiar with wiki/forum web apps per se, but the good news is that there are existing frameworks/apps that already exist for both formats which should be easy enough to configure & style a bit. I'll look into it & get back to you with some ideas on the new thread.

by being a mechanic! You could help out the comunity so much with those skills. PLUS,the first non- craft, non-hi tech business may very well be an auto repair shop. We own an auto repair shop right now and are considering different ways to make that a part of the comunity for Autistics to work in based on their Autistic needs.[ more flexible hours. A travel trailer in the back for when someone needs to "chillax." This would most likely not happen until after Bobby retires [which might be sooner than we had planned because of him being diagnosed with congestive heart failure a month ago]

Non-hi tech??? Umm.... I am a veteran journeyman advanced level auto technician. I have about 60K, just in tools, and diagnostic equipment. Most dealerships prefer to not even hire people like me anymore, and I will not work for them. I fix stuff the dealers cannot, or will not. I can say the same about motorcycles. Harley Davidson dealerships will not even work on a motorcycle that is over 10 years old. Obviously you are not up to speed on such a subject. It is a very demanding, highly technical field. I am no parts hanger. I also have a diploma, and legitimate experience, and training in automotive machining. Master engine machinists are something most college's in most states don't even teach anymore. I have old certificates from ASE that they don't even have anymore. I have worked on things most people have never even seen before. Now days cars are full of alot of wires, computers, and disposible parts. Proper diagnostics, and repair takes alot of skill, and hard work. Something most people in this industry are relitively faking. I'm there, I know.

By being a mechanic, I could help out any community on the face of the planet. Unfortunately, I do it for the money, and if it was such an easy joy, everyone would be doing it. Honestly, it is nothing anyone in my position would let you take for granted, and is another reason why I am voting everyone off the island. This is my island. If you want a piece of it, you are going to have to work hard for it the same way I did.

A good atmosphere for me is a place with a T.V. running in the background, radio as an alternate, and munchies on my toolbox. I also enjoy driving to the parts store to get what I want.

I am SO sorry. That came out so wrong.I meant the stereotypical high tech jobs that autistics are known for. I respect noone on earth more than I do my husband and one of the things i respect is his ability to fix an"unfixable" car. I did not mean to offend you.

My point was that there are many ways your skills would be a valuable contribution, and that there is a good chance that an autistic car repair shop could be one of the first comunity businesses.

I do not want to be on an island where it's about voting other off. I want to be somewhere where we help each other through our strengths and weaknesses.

I was not offended, nor was I trying to offend you. Things just come out that way. I am not a stereotype either.

Given the fact that the people who invented most of the things in the car, and pritty much industrialized the entire world with an idea like the model T. Were people like me, I have no idea what you are talking about. This is not a "first thing". There are many shop owners, and workers in the automotive industry who have Aspergers, or high functioning autism. I taught one of them, and he is now one of the best you can find, just like me.

This idea of automotive repair does not work with just autistic people either. It is full of complex tricks, and ideals that do not entirely jive with an autistic community. If you have ever been trained in service, you would know what I am talking about. I can do it pritty well. It took a very long time. training most autistics to be a "people person", is an almost impossible task. This buisness does not perform without a constant daily battery of multitasking either. Most will break under pressure. I have. It is relentless. The possibility for you to just come up with an idea like this is completely un-doable. Falure is in your future. I'm soo sorry, I should say good luck. You should probably get some NT's to help you with that.

What I meant by "first thing" is one of the first businesses established connected to the intentional Autistic community we are planning. Also, over the years, probably half of the employees have been Autistic because they did not have to deal with the public, make estimates, answer the phone, etc [ they order parts by computer]

People tell me my dream is impossible. That's a good thing because I have always been horrible, no matter how hard I try, at most simple things [tying shoes,printing legibly, remembering faces, etc.] but I deal fairly well with the "impossible."

Also, over the years, probably half of the employees have been Autistic because they did not have to deal with the public, make estimates, answer the phone, etc [ they order parts by computer] "[/quote]

This is not a new idea. It is already happening in a healthy community. It is just less than half. We should work on doing all those other things. It's a skill. It can be learned, just like any other skill. I'm telling you, it cannot be done without other people who are not autistic.

okay.In this particular case, we were planning on having my husband, who is not autistic [but definitely not NT] assist some in his retirement. Because of his recent health issues,that will most likely not be the case.

I am not sure why we would NEED NTs'to make a business successful. I am one of the 5% or so of Autistics who is not withdrawn and after studying social skills for nearly 60 years, I am a good actor for short spurts of times. I can present well [though still definitely decidedly different] I have no problem "playing the Autistic card." [as in "That old lady...she's weird as hell... but she's refreshing and spunky..the company is good and honest with beyond fair prices...and she says the employees are Autistic, which makes them detail oriented...and gives them jobs...she always has homemade cookies and crazy ass card tricks...why NOT use the best mechanics with the fairest prices, feel like a good guy for helping others, and eat cookies while I wait.]

Now, NT allies are always nice to have. They are good for saying things like "OMG! You have to do something about this waiting room. It's horrible. I'll bet you can tell that, but you're not sure how to fix it. Here, I'll help." {okay, this was my NT daughter after we bought the business] An NT with much to offer would not be excluded. It's just that there are so many Autistics with SO MUCH to offer who are so often excluded over and over again.

Iam not really sure WHY you think we would be incapable of running a succesful business comprised of Autistics. There are many NT businesses that get along fine without Autistics, sowhy would the reverse not be true?

I have been working on games for the last 10 years, and I so want to produce the next WOW.