Do most men on WP hate women?

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6. She hasn't expressed interest in you or flirted with you first. In approaching her or suddenly expressing interest, you actually sending the message "I don't care about your feelings, I only care about what I can get from you". You've denied her right to choose a mate for herself, un-pressured by you. That's your classic "creepy".

7. She hasn't had a chance to observe you without you knowing. She needs to know what you're really like when you're not tying to impress anyone, because that's the person you'll be throughout a relationship.

This part - "the situation" - I can fully identify with.. I'm through it now, but I've certainly felt this way at various stages in my life. Most of my teenage years, and also during some of the dark periods of depression in my late 20s and 30s.

However this part - your conclusion - I'm afraid is way off the mark.



I can tell you from first hand experience this is just not true.

From my late 20s and early 30s My career was going well.. I owned a cool flat in a very desirable part of London with movie star neighbours, I had a money, a fancy sports car, prospects.. everything that you're saying women look for... and yet I was single through that entire time... obsessing over my unrequited for a girl who obviously liked me, but as a friend and nothing more. I was confused and frustrated.

Then things started to go really badly.. I lost everything, the car, the flat, my career and my money through some very poor decisions, and spent the next 3 years failing at just about everything I tried.. finally hitting rock bottom about 3 years ago. Broke, unemployed, nearly 40, living on welfare in a leaky flat in a rough part of London. and without any idea at all what I could do to support myself, let alone get back to a position of security and comfort. I thought I'd never be happy again, let alone meet someone and have a normal life.

Out of desperation to get some sort of human contact, I set myself a challenge.. to go on meetup.com and pick the meetups that were as far from my normal areas of interest as possible. And it was one of those, that I met my current partner. Right from the outset I didn't try to hide my financial situation.. she knew I was literally starting again from scratch, but it didn't matter to her. A month or so later I did get a job, but then got made redundant, and now I'm self employed and working on startup. I'm still broke, I still can't afford to take her out for a meal, my yearly clothing budget is whatever i get in gift vouchers from family at Xmas (around £150 / $250 dollars ), and still struggle to eat a proper diet, but despite having nothing, we've got closer and closer.

So what is it that attracted her? I think a few factors.

1. I never complained or blamed anyone else for my situation. Yes, the credit crunch was a big part of it, and I could easily blame bankers, the government etc, but I don't. I made my own decisions - nobody forced me to take stupid risks I couldn't afford, and take full responsibility for the fact I made bad choices. Women like men who take personal responsibility for their actions. It shows we're emotionally mature.

2. I never gave up. even at my bleakest moments, I looked for solutions.. ( e.g, the meetup challenge I set myself ). Women like men who never give up, despite the odds. It shows we're fighters and won't give up on them or our potential offspring if life gets tough

3. I didn't try to pretend, or hide my real situation. Women like honesty. It shows they can trust us

4. As men, our job is to provide and protect. I couldn't provide material things, and I still can't (yet!), but I can provide my attention, my time, my willingness to try to understand her, my ideas to help her solve her problems, and my humour to cheer her up when she's down herself. Women can work and pay for the material things themselves these days, but there's still plenty of things that only you can provide.

The point I'm trying to make with all this is that money, material goods, fancy cars etc. has absolutely NOTHING to do with it. You have everything you need to attracted women already. You just need to find it in yourself. I promise you it's in there... hardwired into your very being.. You just need to declutter your head and clear out some of the false conclusions and assumptions that are getting in the way.

( and no, I don't look like Justin Timberlake either! )

You are only making yourself a victim on this board by making replies like this. Please, try to think before posting, because you're posting when angry, and it's not looking good on your part, hence you are 'victimised'.

If you ignore these people, don't acknowledge them, they'll move on.

I was bullied throughout my school life, you're not the only person that's been bullied. I'd say 99% of this forum have been bullied, because we're 'different'.

I still get bullied and trolled online now, it's just what happens, and there's nothing you can do except ignore them. I've been stalked online, called out in random threads when I've not posted for ages and targeted for my mental health, you name it.
If they are bullying you online, report it to the moderators. Don't engage or acknowledge these people publicly.

I dont hate women...I wish I could hug them and snuggle with them and tell them how I really feel and maybe lower my guard and give myself to them!

I will freely admit. I hate women with every fiber of my being

That isn't going to help you get a date. Unless you want to date a dude.

Good point Hale Bopp!

I'm beginning to relate strongly to denison200's post.
I had never in my life assumed that liking somebody was a crime. I humbly stand corrected. I guess in my case it is.

I will freely admit. I hate women with every fiber of my being

I will freely admit. I hate women with every fiber of my being

I will freely admit. I hate women with every fiber of my being

so you'll freely admit that, but not tell us why?

you sound well-adjusted.