[ASAN] ACT NOW: Tell FDA To Ban Rotenberg's Electric Shock

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vickygleitz
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16 Apr 2014, 3:58 pm

when I saw the video of the electroshock torture, I was [iterally so sick to my stomach that I was not even able to make it to the toilet. My youngest son is 20 years old. He is autistic, but when he was 12 years old he developed severe profound Tourettes. About 6 weeks later he developed tazer like,icepic pain that were so severe that he passed out hundreds of times a day. Twice, blood spurted from his eye sockets. He was so caught up in the pain, when he was not "burning" as he calls them, he lived in fear of the pain. AND he begged me day after day, "Mommy, please help me die." lJ still has the burns, no longer 24/7 ,but enough that he fears leaving the house, has no real friends, and is in a complete depression. Sometimes he gets angry with me and screams "Why didn't you help me die."

Okay, before he got sick, my son was a handful. When he was a little kid and still in school, he was voted "Most likely to be CEO of a major corporation." He planned to bring wealth to a small lthird world nation. you have to be a pretty spunky person to accomplish those goals,and despite being autistic and ADHD, he had what it would take to someday accomplish such things. Including bbeing a free thinker. This made for some behavioaral issues.

When I saw that video last year, I saw what was happening to my baby, being deliberately induced in other children!

Well, guess what? The monsters are right. This DOES stop behavioral problems. WHY? Because these babies,l like my son, are way too traumatized and terrified to do anything. On top of that, it's like these "burns", along with burning out individuality, burn out a lot of intelligence as well. [At 12 he was doing college level calculus and trig]

HOW DARE ANYONE DELIBERATELY DESTROY A CHILD SO THAT HE IS PASSIVE AND EASY?

Once my son told me that he is envious of the fact that i have advanced cancer. He said someone dying of cancer at least knows that the pain is not forever.

This torture has to become illegal.



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19 Apr 2014, 1:38 am

As much as I despise the FDA, I hope the ASAN succeed into convincing their superintendents to do a conscientious thing for once and put an end to these contingent aversives, as-well as the pervasiveness unleashed by the JRC. It's the only significant way for those forcibly subjected to their malfeasances can be emancipated.


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19 Apr 2014, 9:07 am

TheRedPedant93 wrote:
As much as I despise the FDA, I hope the ASAN succeed into convincing their superintendents to do a conscientious thing for once and put an end to these contingent aversives, as-well as the pervasiveness unleashed by the JRC. It's the only significant way for those forcibly subjected to their malfeasances can be emancipated.


???

My grandfather once asked me, "Why use a big word when a diminutive one will do?"


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19 Apr 2014, 9:48 am

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"Why use a big word when a diminutive one will do?"
Because that is what many autistics tend to do. Sometimes, we don't remember the diminutive word, while we easily remember the big word.


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19 Apr 2014, 10:45 am

KenG wrote:
Feralucce wrote:
"Why use a big word when a diminutive one will do?"
Because that is what many autistics tend to do. Sometimes, we don't remember the diminutive word, while we easily remember the big word.


However... when several of them are misused, we have exceeded the bounds of intellectual discourse.


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19 Apr 2014, 10:51 am

KenG wrote:
Feralucce wrote:
"Why use a big word when a diminutive one will do?"
Because that is what many autistics tend to do. Sometimes, we don't remember the diminutive word, while we easily remember the big word.


AND I wonder if this is an autism thing... I would like to see citations or studies on it (not accusing you of making anything up or stating you need to provide links... just curious now.


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19 Apr 2014, 11:50 am

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AND I wonder if this is an autism thing... I would like to see citations or studies on it
I can't find studies on it, but many on-line articles mention it. For example:
http://www.snagglebox.com/article/autism-big-words


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19 Apr 2014, 5:25 pm

Feralucce wrote:
TheRedPedant93 wrote:
As much as I despise the FDA, I hope the ASAN succeed into convincing their superintendents to do a conscientious thing for once and put an end to these contingent aversives, as-well as the pervasiveness unleashed by the JRC. It's the only significant way for those forcibly subjected to their malfeasances can be emancipated.


???

My grandfather once asked me, "Why use a big word when a diminutive one will do?"


I have a very formal and unusually distinctive way of expressing myself derived from my verbally eloquent mind and inherent concepts of thought, It has indeed been postulated by clinical psychologists that this trait correlates with that of people on the spectrum (the above link purporting this exemplifies it), but not everyone will be endowed with this linguistic ability.


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19 Apr 2014, 8:58 pm

KenG wrote:
Feralucce wrote:
"Why use a big word when a diminutive one will do?"
Because that is what many autistics tend to do. Sometimes, we don't remember the diminutive word, while we easily remember the big word.


IMHO, it's a good thing. Listening to people use "big words" increases ones own vocabulary. I find it refreshing to hear people use vocabulary above an elementary school level.



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19 Apr 2014, 9:31 pm

I hope they ban electroshock "therapy". It's cruel and inhumane, and no one should ever have to be subjected to it.



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20 Apr 2014, 3:39 pm

TheRedPedant93 wrote:
Feralucce wrote:
TheRedPedant93 wrote:
As much as I despise the FDA, I hope the ASAN succeed into convincing their superintendents to do a conscientious thing for once and put an end to these contingent aversives, as-well as the pervasiveness unleashed by the JRC. It's the only significant way for those forcibly subjected to their malfeasances can be emancipated.


???

My grandfather once asked me, "Why use a big word when a diminutive one will do?"


I have a very formal and unusually distinctive way of expressing myself derived from my verbally eloquent mind and inherent concepts of thought, It has indeed been postulated by clinical psychologists that this trait correlates with that of people on the spectrum (the above link purporting this exemplifies it), but not everyone will be endowed with this linguistic ability.



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[quote="TheRedPedant93"]
IMHO, it's a good thing. Listening to people use "big words" increases ones own vocabulary. I find it refreshing to hear people use vocabulary above an elementary school level.[\quote]

Let me restructure the query... why use large words incorrectly when smaller ones, used correctly will get the point across? The post that I commented on was grammatically flawed with the words that were chosen...

I speak incredibly formally, and have a very large vocabulary... but the point of communication is to make oneself understood... and the burden of communication falls on the shoulders of the communicator...

Also, after reading up on it... the experts have stated (without formal studies) that the spread of vocabulary and large word usage among NTs and Autistic Spectrum Individuals is almost identical... i.e. it is a human trait... not an autistic trait.


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20 Apr 2014, 7:27 pm

Feralucce; I think the question "Why hurt peoples feelings over their word usage?" is a more important one.



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21 Apr 2014, 11:49 pm

vickygleitz wrote:
Feralucce; I think the question "Why hurt peoples feelings over their word usage?" is a more important one.


My intent is not to hurt someone's feelings, but I actually had to have a consensus from the people in our apartment to understand what was being communicated.

If word usage is incorrect, then communication has not been achieved...


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