The Universe Could Have Formed Spontaneously From Nothing

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17 Apr 2014, 1:04 pm

If nothing created one universe, is it far fetched to state that it created many other universes as well, maybe even an infinite number of them?



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17 Apr 2014, 2:04 pm

Housedays wrote:
If nothing created one universe, is it far fetched to state that it created many other universes as well, maybe even an infinite number of them?


And if nothing could create a universe- just think what SOMEthing could do!

One stray bottlecap from this universe might spawn a dozen universes!



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17 Apr 2014, 7:08 pm

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Black holes are misunderstood creatures. If you placed a black hole with the mass of the sun at the center of the solar system, the planets would simply orbit around it. They do not suck anything into them unless said objects are too close; a black hole has no more mass than whatever objects it has devoured.

Furthermore, there's a limit to how much a black hole can suck in at a time. Too much, and we'll have a quasar that spews out matter.

Common sense says that black holes evaporate (or in some cases, they're devoured by larger black holes). This shouldn't even be up for debate.


I think it is important that subjects like this are discussed; blackhole behaviors are far removed from common sense.
AspieOtakus misunderstanding of the behavior of blackholes led him to surmise that they are the the cause of reality. He had in effect made a creation myth out of this misunderstanding and then mocked the misunderstanding of our ancestors and their own creation myths.
When creation myths become religions then people will kill, often and with zeal to defend these misunderstandings.
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.


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18 Apr 2014, 1:02 am

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Why is everyone being so touchy about this? I feel like I have incurred the wrath of religious fanaticism by simply suggesting that scientist could serve a better purpose by helping the sick and solving pressing practical problems.

Because we - unlike you - know how infinitely valuable basic science (which has no immediate practical application) is to scientific progress. It is extremely arrogant to assume that one can single out specific recent scientific results and pass judgement on their usefulness.

Illustration: Louis Pasteur revolutionized medicine and food production by looking at something as trivial as spoiled milk...


Carl Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark" addresses this very succinctly, in it he rues the death of basic science research in a world driven by profit and outcomes.

Also Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow address the advent of universe's in "The Grand Design" its just a shame that all most people know of the book is the last paragraph.

Then there is Rainbow Gravity


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