Are MRAs always angry?
You say women rape as much as men do? :> Maybe more?
Sorry you had to go through this, I am definitely not justifying women sexual offenders nor I am denying their existence. But these are rather rare pathological cases.
You say women rape as much as men do? :> Maybe more?
Sorry you had to go through this, I am definitely not justifying women sexual offenders nor I am denying their existence. But these are rather rare pathological cases.
It is a well-known fact that sexual abuse that has been perpetrated by women gets reported a lot less often. Especially when it is a boy that is being abused. The kind of shame that is attached with sort of abuse is overwhelming, considering how rigourously people hold up traditional gender roles in such high esteem.
I probably should not be making arguments in this debate, however. I have my own axe to grind, and it probably is impossible for me to think about the whole MRA situation with a level head at this point in my life. On one hand, the MRA movement looks appealing to me for obvious reasons. On the other hand, I read a lot of what is on their websites, and I realize that a lot of what they are saying is incredibly unfair, putting some of these men on the same exact same moral level as the predatory females I knew earlier in my life.
I will step out of this thread now.
And you just made one up, congrats
Sure because they have babies. thats obvious
FALSE. go look it up, women professors are rare, and so what if there are more women in college?
because men are cheaters and rapists. and you statistics are made up
because they birthed them, men dont give a sh*t and i bet 90% dont want them, and women put all their time and enrgy into the child.
not true, made up.
This is beyond dumb. You are comparing actual oppression of women with some hurt feelings on twitter where everyone bullies everyone? WHAHAHA. .... This is just too much. Made my day, buddy. Truly makes me wanna agree with "all men must die". Stupidity like this cannot be justified
Apparently you're saying that women harass men at work. And then get them fired for it! Oh, and that 90% bosses are female, since they dominate academia and such.
What do you mean. They are pretty consistent from study to study, from country to country. Except a few funded by MRA's
There are some, sure. Doesn't mean that what I said is not true.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics
The vast majority of pedophiles and rapists WHO GET ADJUDICATED are men. Most women who commit those acts can walk around their daily lives with impunity and pride, knowing that they got away with doing things that a man would get castrated over.
Just speaking from personal experience here. I was sexually abused by many females in my youth. None of them will have to spend a single day in jail over what they did to me. Of course, a part of that has to do with my state's statute of limitations, but people are telling me that I should "not be angry" at any of these women, because "men probably taught them how to act like that". BS.
EDIT - I feel a need to clarify that nobody should be getting away with acts like these under any circumstances. I just strongly believe that all sex offenders should be treated equally, regardless of gender. And I hate it when people say that I am a "high and mighty misogynist" when I make statements like that.
lots of survivors, myself included, of abuse and sexual assault of both genders never see justice for what was done to them. no one is arguing that female predators don't exist, or that they don't sometimes escape justice just like lots of male predators do. whoever is telling you not to be angry at your abusers is wrong: you have a right to deal with your experiences however you see fit and your feelings are legitimate. it is perfectly normal and understandable to feel angry at someone that has violated you; it's part of the process of healing, getting angry. anger is a healthy response to injustice--what you do with that anger, however, can be healthy or unhealthy. you can learn to harness it and use it productively or you can let it consume you.
because they are disadvantaged+have babies, need protection from men
I would even bother respond to this blanket anti-male response. this is typical feminist claim to support equality and a couple sentences later post anti-male statements calling men rapists, cheaters and not give a damn about their children.
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I would not say they are always angry.
However it is hard to keep your head up when your talks keep being interrupted by fire alarms(3 times in 2 years and that is only on Canada) and the only solution they find is to charge you more for the inconveniences people that do not like your talks cause.
Light joking aside:
MRAs seem to be angry most of the time, just as feminists, because they want you to react to what they are saying in a certain way and an angry tone that talks about all your "issues" causes a stronger reaction than someone just talking plainly
Sex-drive also isn't the only reproductive urge that people let get the better of them.
There are plenty of creepers angling for money and emotional control. Some of the women that I knew growing up would take out the latter on their own kids. I knew a girl who'd been sexually abused by her grandfather when she was little, and the damage in the two cases is almost identical - eroded demarcation of self, misunderstanding what healthy members of the opposite sex want, heightened basal fear...
The vast majority of pedophiles and rapists WHO GET ADJUDICATED are men. Most women who commit those acts can walk around their daily lives with impunity and pride, knowing that they got away with doing things that a man would get castrated over.
Just speaking from personal experience here. I was sexually abused by many females in my youth. None of them will have to spend a single day in jail over what they did to me. Of course, a part of that has to do with my state's statute of limitations, but people are telling me that I should "not be angry" at any of these women, because "men probably taught them how to act like that". BS.
EDIT - I feel a need to clarify that nobody should be getting away with acts like these under any circumstances. I just strongly believe that all sex offenders should be treated equally, regardless of gender. And I hate it when people say that I am a "high and mighty misogynist" when I make statements like that.
lots of survivors, myself included, of abuse and sexual assault of both genders never see justice for what was done to them. no one is arguing that female predators don't exist, or that they don't sometimes escape justice just like lots of male predators do. whoever is telling you not to be angry at your abusers is wrong: you have a right to deal with your experiences however you see fit and your feelings are legitimate. it is perfectly normal and understandable to feel angry at someone that has violated you; it's part of the process of healing, getting angry. anger is a healthy response to injustice--what you do with that anger, however, can be healthy or unhealthy. you can learn to harness it and use it productively or you can let it consume you.
Thanks. I know I said I would drop out of this thread just a couple of posts above, but this warrants a response.
Frankly, I would have been right at home in any MRA group about a decade ago. I can't really say it would have been because of hate. It would have been because I was outright terrified of females. I really wonder how many men in those groups really know the same kind of fear I experienced, and how many of them are just oversheltered whiners with too much time on their hands, or how many of them are making a pathetic attempt to blame their own victims.
I have a strong distrust of females, even today. I am starting to think that the whole reason I turned to homosexuality is because I found most men to be non-threatening, while the opposite sex frankly scared the hell out of me. But I am trying. I am really trying to let that go. Of course, therapy helps. As well as being a member of a 12-step group. I hope to one day reach the point where my kneejerk emotional reactions are not as unfair as they have been for most of my life.
And like I said earlier, the MRA groups did look appealing to me for a short while..... I think it was their claims of an epidemic of false rape charges that turned me away, though. False rape charges are an atrocity, but I was once ridiculed when I reported my own sexual abuse experiences, and nobody deserves an experience like that. The more I read, the more I realized that a lot of these guys were most likely blaming the victim to cover their own tracks, proving to me that kind of behavior happened a lot in both genders.
So, I have this frustration over what I went through, and some kneejerk reactions that were recently diagnosed as PTSD attached to it. I am at a point where I can understand why the MRA movement is appealing for many men..... Yet, they also turn me away because a lot of them behave in predatory ways that I want absolutely nothing to do with. I am totally against blaming the victim in any circumstance. I've been on the receiving end of that before. I wish that upon nobody.
baby, your anti-woman response deserves nothing but what you got. You gave me nothing constructive or rational, so have that in return! You should go to college and attend discussion 101. Because who responds with memes. KIDS, and apparently hurt men.
It's a fact, that men are rapists, cheaters and dont give a damn about their children. a cold hard fact. you can deny that all you want, and maybe you should if you're a good decent person and you just cant see past yourself. Really you are no better than those feminists, no better AT ALL.
I already reported you to a moderator.
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not true, made up.
I don't know what the statistics are on this. It is true that we go pretty easy on white-collar offences relative to the harm done. Also, IIRC, we do jail a lot more men than women in the US. (I think they're about 70% of the prison population, but I have to look.)
There are also quirks in the law. A local auto-sales mogul got busted for fraud, and he's been subject to claw-back motions. His wife still gets alimony. Since the only money that he has is rightfully the property of his victims, she's really receiving alimony from them, not him. And she already lived lavishly at their expense for years.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/1 ... 74742.html
a study proves that women get lighter jail sentences
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