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khaoz
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12 Apr 2014, 7:50 pm

Remind them that only one party Is trying to force their religion down the throat of every one else.

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12 Apr 2014, 9:02 pm

oh,like atheist aren't pushing their agenda down
people throat. Religious people have rights too.



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12 Apr 2014, 9:13 pm

billiscool wrote:
oh,like atheist aren't pushing their agenda down
people throat. Religious people have rights too.


Is anyone burning down churches these days? Is anyone pulling crosses off of people necks? There are churches on every corner of my town. No one is trying to close them down. All Atheists are doing is asking that religious people observe the separation of church and state, and religious people are denying that the 1st Amendment exists. It is Christians who are persecuting Atheists, not the other way around. Christians want Atheists to shut up and disappear. Atheists simply want Christians to obey the law. The apartment I live in has Bibles laying in open view in all the common areas. They hold weekly prayer meetings and Bible studies here and a minister comes here twice a week to preach. No one says anything about it. If an Atheist were to say anything the residents would try to get the Atheists thrown out, There are currently at least 3 major motion pictures in the theaters that are centered around your religion. One of them has been attacked by Christians who demand it was changed. There are Christian television programs on at least 15 channels of my local cable channel. No one is trying to have them removed.

Please equate to me again how Atheists are pushing their agenda down people throat.



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12 Apr 2014, 9:56 pm

I don't think they're talking about that when they say "they're both the same"

They are referring to both parties promising smaller government (albeit in different areas), but in reality are statist to the core. Also, it refers to heavy corporate backing in both parties.


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12 Apr 2014, 9:58 pm

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If you think that Christianity is under attack by Atheists you, my friend, exist in Leave It to Beaver world, with Mr Ed horse blinders on both sides of your head.


Yeah, well a helluva lot of people disagree with you....
http://washingtonexaminer.com/poll-christianity-under-attack-losing-culture-war/article/2544712

"LifeWay Research's poll of 1,001 Americans and 1,007 Protestant pastors revealed that church leaders and regular churchgoers believe they are in the minority and face intolerance and segregation in America for their views from a mainstream population that is less religious."


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12 Apr 2014, 10:02 pm

It feels like Christianity is under attack on WP, and I am not even religious :D



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12 Apr 2014, 10:14 pm

I definitely consider myself a Christian but not "religious" as in being a church-goer or a bible thumper. There are those on this forum that seem to take any opportunity to take shots at Christianity.


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12 Apr 2014, 11:09 pm

Raptor wrote:
I definitely consider myself a Christian but not "religious" as in being a church-goer or a bible thumper. There are those on this forum that seem to take any opportunity to take shots at Christianity.


exactly,I love how liberals preach ''tolerance''expect when
comes to republican christians.



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12 Apr 2014, 11:43 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
It feels like Christianity is under attack on WP, and I am not even religious :D


Christians are under attack, if by attack you mean that they are corrected when they say something fallacious, or that they are restricted in their own ability to persecute atheists, women, gays, jews, muslims etc.



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12 Apr 2014, 11:50 pm

khaoz wrote:
Remind them that only one party Is trying to force their religion down the throat of every one else.


Both parties worship the State above all others. They claim to want their deity to do slightly different things, but in practice, it does pretty much the same horrible things no matter who is in charge.



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13 Apr 2014, 12:06 am

Stannis wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
It feels like Christianity is under attack on WP, and I am not even religious :D


Christians are under attack, if by attack you mean that they are corrected when they say something fallacious, or that they are restricted in their own ability to persecute atheists, women, gays, jews, muslims etc.


:roll:
You want us to believe that it's:
a) the desire of Christianity as a whole to persecute the above mentioned parties?
b) the desire of each and every Christian to persecute the above mentioned parties?


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13 Apr 2014, 12:24 am

Raptor wrote:
Stannis wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
It feels like Christianity is under attack on WP, and I am not even religious :D


Christians are under attack, if by attack you mean that they are corrected when they say something fallacious, or that they are restricted in their own ability to persecute atheists, women, gays, jews, muslims etc.


:roll:
You want us to believe that it's:
a) the desire of Christianity as a whole to persecute the above mentioned parties?
b) the desire of each and every Christian to persecute the above mentioned parties?


:roll:
I do not. I am pointing out that many christians on WP conclude, because their claims are challenged, and because there are site standards in regard to bigotry and racism, that christians are therefore being persecuted.

It's obvious what you're up to, by the way. A well known tactic of bullies/ conservatives, is to slyly take on the mantle of the victim, in order to distract from what they are doing to others.



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13 Apr 2014, 12:30 am

Stannis wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Stannis wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
It feels like Christianity is under attack on WP, and I am not even religious :D


Christians are under attack, if by attack you mean that they are corrected when they say something fallacious, or that they are restricted in their own ability to persecute atheists, women, gays, jews, muslims etc.


:roll:
You want us to believe that it's:
a) the desire of Christianity as a whole to persecute the above mentioned parties?
b) the desire of each and every Christian to persecute the above mentioned parties?


:roll:
I do not. I am pointing out that many christians on WP conclude, because their claims are challenged, and because there are site standards in regard to bigotry and racism, that christians are therefore being persecuted.


And bigotry and racism are core values of Christianity?
Bigotry and racism are a no-no on just about any forum I've participated in.


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13 Apr 2014, 12:44 am

Raptor wrote:
Stannis wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Stannis wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
It feels like Christianity is under attack on WP, and I am not even religious :D


Christians are under attack, if by attack you mean that they are corrected when they say something fallacious, or that they are restricted in their own ability to persecute atheists, women, gays, jews, muslims etc.


:roll:
You want us to believe that it's:
a) the desire of Christianity as a whole to persecute the above mentioned parties?
b) the desire of each and every Christian to persecute the above mentioned parties?


:roll:
I do not. I am pointing out that many christians on WP conclude, because their claims are challenged, and because there are site standards in regard to bigotry and racism, that christians are therefore being persecuted.


And bigotry and racism are core values of Christianity?
Bigotry and racism are a no-no on just about any forum I've participated in.


Not that it's what I was saying, but yep. The bible clearly is anti homosexual and far less than tolerant of other religions. You would know this if you bothered to read it. Secularism has dragged christianity kicking and screaming away from some of the more destructive elements of its source material. Of course the conservative political parties have a tendency to pay lip service to the more bigoted theistic instincts.



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13 Apr 2014, 12:57 am

The Bible is full of contradictions and confusion. That's why there's so many different denominations of Christianity. Hell, I don't need to read it since all you atheists seem to enjoy doing it for me. Same for Fox News and conservative talk shows; I just listen for what the liberals have their drawers in a knot over to get the gist of it.


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13 Apr 2014, 12:59 am

How many people have been killed by Christians?
Persecution, fear, intolerance and violence seem to stain christianity a deep unsettling shade of red


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