Why DO males take the responsibility for initiating?

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There are no male only brothels for heterosexual women clients.

LOL!

Young ladies make tons of money as streetwalkers selling themselves to male clients.

Young men also make money as streetwalkers- selling themselves to male homosexual clients.

But young men do not make money as streetwalkers selling themselves to women driving by in cars. There are no male only brothels for heterosexual women clients. If there are where do I apply to work for one?


When primitive tribes fight wars- women are part of the spoils. You dont see women waging wars- slaughtering all of the women in the next tribe to steal the men.

i repeat, do you have any evidence to back your statements up, or are they all just baseless suppositions? to clarify: when i say evidence, i mean things like research studies on large and varied sample groups with controls whose findings have been repeated in other studies--you know, proper empirical evidence. or are you going to continue to site your own (faulty) observations and personal experience and call that objective evidence for your argument?

Women put in just as much effort if not more, just in different ways.

Grooming: hairstyles, perfumes, make up, beauty treatments, shaving, plucking, waxing, clothing, high heels, tanning or fake tan (some) etc...

Body: Body modification (Breast implants, face lifts, tummy tucks), diets, padded bras, workouts, yoga, etc...

Personality: acting more "sexy" to get a man to notice her which is not really how she may be in real life with friends and family, this is especially hard if you are not a typical girly girl and quite an introvert.

For example: When I was growing up I never could attract a guy because I had no idea how to act like a cute and flirty girl, I hated the cheerleader types in my school and those were the type of girls ALL the guys wanted. I was not interested in being seen as a sexual object or striving to look like a barbie doll so I did not achieve girlfriend status with anyone.

It is not as easy as men like to think it is, if you do not work your butt off to keep a man interested in you there is always the chance they will move on to something better (sexier) if the opportunity rears itself. Unless you find a truly genuine man who loves you regardless of your faults, the true you, the at home with messy hair baggy pajamas you, the caught the flu and got puke in your hair you and finding that guy is extremely hard. I have learned in life that men, more than women have a hard time to control their sexual attraction to other women, hence why they have a higher cheating spousal rate and why the porn industry is huge, and 99% of strip clubs are for men.

After all this is a mans world...

I think women initiate (by sending subtle signals) if they find the man marriage material or extraordinarily attractive physically. And it just does not happen as often as men finding women attractive enough for them to want to have sex.
So sex is the primary reason for men to initiate a relationship and for women it's usually not.
That's why men initiate more than women.

Question for the OP. Do you wait for women to initiate? If not, why don't you?

And men's sexual needs are a lot stronger (because it's a physical needs) than women's companionship needs.
Also, it's easier for men to find women who seem to be able to satisfy their (sexual) needs than for women to find someone who fits their companionship needs.

LOL!

Young ladies make tons of money as streetwalkers selling themselves to male clients.

Young men also make money as streetwalkers- selling themselves to male homosexual clients.

But young men do not make money as streetwalkers selling themselves to women driving by in cars. There are no male only brothels for heterosexual women clients. If there are where do I apply to work for one?

When primitive tribes fight wars- women are part of the spoils. You dont see women waging wars- slaughtering all of the women in the next tribe to steal the men.

Boys will be boys, people say, when they mean aggression, violence, noise, guns. Why does an age which believes in medical and scientific intervention on a heroic scale, which works for change - and delivers it - co-exist with a determinist philosophy about human nature and gender? The point about Frankenstein assembling the monster from body parts haunts contemporary consciousness, but the book’s main philosophical argument - that his viciousness is learned, not innate - that is somehow overlooked. The biological and genetic revolution already upon us can alter and save bodies, but stories which feature such bodies assume that their natures are static, determined, doomed. Rare is the character in a video game or comic strip who develops or learns to be different. Yet anthropology has shown that, in the territory of sexuality as well as other human areas, social expectation affects character.

Masculinity varies from group to group, place to place, and its varieties are inculcated, not naturally so. Societies who expect boys to be unflinching warriors subject them to rituals of traumatic severity in order to harden them. Among the Sambia in New Guinea, a tribe in which men are warriors and nothing else, and women are feared and despised, boys are removed into exclusive male control around the age of six, and then begin a series of violent initiations to turn them into men like their fathers. Proper, cultural masculinity does not come naturally, it seems, to a New Guinea highlander. Why should it to a child living in Kentish Town or Aberdeen?

Among another rather less remote people living today in the Balkans, in the mountains of Montenegro, the birth of a daughter inspires routine, ritual lamentation. Blood feuds are handed down from generation to generation, and if there is no son surviving in a family to carry on the feud, a daughter can be raised in his place and become a sworn virgin, a warrior in disguise to defend her family like a man. Her true sex will never again on pain of death be alluded to either in her presence or out of it. When the Serbian-Montenegrin forces in the current war in the Balkans cursed the women they raped, that they would bear children who would forever be their enemies and fight against their mother and her people, they were behaving according to a particular concept of inherited social beliefs. They were speaking out of a ferocious commitment to military values, paternal lineage and a cult of male heroism. I am not offering an excuse, a rationale, or an adequate explanation of men’s capacity to rape and kill. But I am rejecting the universalising argument about male nature that the rapes committed in former Yugoslavia are committed simply because men are
rapists. This argument goes, in the words of one prominent American rights lawyer, Catherine McKinnon, “men do in war what they do in peace, only more so” and also that “similar acts are common everywhere in peacetime and are widely understood as sex”. These sweeping assertions work against mobilising change; they present as sovereign truth beyond history, beyond society, the
idea that the swagger and the cudgel come naturally to men due to their testosterone, a hormone that, according to this view, is always in excess.

I feel like killing someone.

Well, to be fair, Yuzu and few other women on WP kept saying in many posts and in THIS THREAD that males have a higher sex drive and less control on their urges yet you've never confronted them like that, so it's not only naturalplastic who believes that.

i repeat, do you have any evidence to back your statements up, or are they all just baseless suppositions? to clarify: when i say evidence, i mean things like research studies on large and varied sample groups with controls whose findings have been repeated in other studies--you know, proper empirical evidence. or are you going to continue to site your own (faulty) observations and personal experience and call that objective evidence for your argument?

Learn to read.
What I stated were not baseless suppositon but stating obvious facts.

Okay I will play along with your joke.

You know you're right.

We have to worry about our sons, fathers, and brothers, being abducted and raped by women all of the time.

Then there is the problem of women raping other women in prisons!

You starvingartist are so lucky to be female because you dont have to worry being raped. Men almost never rape. And women only get raped in prison by other women!.

Joking over.

Im only stating the obvious.

Since you're denying the obvious its up to you to cite scientific evidence. Not me.

So lets hear it: your evidence that I am wrong that "male sexuality is more agressive than that of females"?


Do YOU have anything other "baseless suppositions" to spout?

Learn to read.
What I stated were not baseless suppositon but stating obvious facts.

Okay I will play along with your joke.

You know you're right.

We have to worry about our sons, fathers, and brothers, being abducted and raped by women all of the time.

Then there is the problem of women raping other women in prisons!

You starvingartist are so lucky to be female because you dont have to worry being raped. Men almost never rape. And women only get raped in prison by other women!.

Joking over.

Im only stating the obvious.

Since you're denying the obvious its up to you to cite scientific evidence. Not me.

So lets hear it: your evidence that I am wrong that "male sexuality is more agressive than that of females"?


Do YOU have anything other "baseless suppositions" to spout?

^I feel like wanting to eat mammoth meat.

Oh wait, you're confusing me, there are no mammoths anymore.





That can be a good business idea for a niche market.

even though you were incredibly rude in your response, i will answer you civilly.

i'm not going to lay out all the evidence all over again myself, since it's been done elsewhere (including on this site) to death. the info is there if you're willing to read it.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf253095-0-15.html Is Male Sexuality Inherently Predatory?

http://everydayfeminism.com/2013/06/male-sexuality/

http://goodmenproject.com/noseriouslywhatabouttehmenz/on-sexual-aggressiveness/

http://scienceblogs.com/worldsfair/2009/05/05/the-caveman-mystique-pop-darwi/

that's just to start--there's lots more out there. happy reading!