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18 Apr 2014, 11:55 am

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We're HUMANS of course! It's what we are and we should be proud. Humans always want to feel bad about themselves. They always feel unworthy. Why not just accept being human and happy with it?

I'm not getting why admitting that we are animals is akin to feeling bad about ourselves. I think animals are quite wondrous and beautiful.

Because we aren't animal-like. If we were I would agree but I just can't because I have seen too many examples of being human.



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18 Apr 2014, 12:03 pm

Okay here's an example of what I am talking about. There's one here on this board right now. Gun toting humans suggest all with guns shoot them at the same time 12 noon April 19. Give me one example of this lunacy in the animal kingdom. An honest to goodness example, not just a vague dolphins gang up on misfit dolphins type comparison which I don't buy. I think animals can act like the humans from time to time but all in all they are worlds apart.



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18 Apr 2014, 12:55 pm

Look at those idiots at Black Friday sales.Trampling people to get 50% off a tv.Talk about a stampede.Pretty primitive if you ask me.My dog has better sense than most of them,and he's better behaved and always pleasant to be around.Cant say that for most humans.


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18 Apr 2014, 1:19 pm

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18 Apr 2014, 2:45 pm

"Man is a bad animal."
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18 Apr 2014, 6:44 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Ann2011 wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
We're HUMANS of course! It's what we are and we should be proud. Humans always want to feel bad about themselves. They always feel unworthy. Why not just accept being human and happy with it?

I'm not getting why admitting that we are animals is akin to feeling bad about ourselves. I think animals are quite wondrous and beautiful.

Because we aren't animal-like. If we were I would agree but I just can't because I have seen too many examples of being human.


Well, we are human. And humans are animals. Various species behave differently, though we may judge that particular behaviours are rooted in certain commonalities. So it goes for humans. Human behaviour may or may not find analogues with other species - whilst I think human behaviour is best dealt with and understood on a human level, that doesn't mean there can't be interesting or useful comparisons to other species.


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18 Apr 2014, 11:52 pm

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"Man is a bad animal."
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"Woman is a bad zoo keeper."
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19 Apr 2014, 12:31 am

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19 Apr 2014, 12:17 pm

Humans are animals, mammals to be specific.
Homo Sapiens has thought of more & better ways to torture, mass murder, exploit & at the same time rationalize those processes than any other animal. We have cured disease, reached out into Space, but we have no idea what is in our oceans or what the dog is saying to you. (Some say dogs have been with us for over 15,000 years, some say more like 20,000 years. That's a long time to remain ignorant.)



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19 Apr 2014, 12:20 pm

Border collies are planning a takeover now,it will be a better world.


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19 Apr 2014, 12:35 pm

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Border collies are planning a takeover now,it will be a better world.


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19 Apr 2014, 12:36 pm

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Border collies are planning a takeover now,it will be a better world.


YEE-AY! :D



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20 Apr 2014, 4:38 pm

We are animals, wild ones at that. Any pretense of 'domestication' or 'civilisation' is inherantly misleading because they are social frameworks that we ourselves have constructed as feral creatures, not much differant than wolves, horses, bovines, and other social animals.


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20 Apr 2014, 5:09 pm

Sure we are. But we really wish we weren't.



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21 Apr 2014, 1:55 am

Were closely related to the chimpanzee and the bonobo we walk upright like the bonobo mate in similar positions like the bonobo but have the violent destructive behavior of the chimpanzee, we even kill for fun like the chimpanzee and out of anger like the chimpanzee in some ways we are even meaner than chimps because we dont care about the destruction we cause to the land when we get greedy or go to war.


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21 Apr 2014, 1:58 am

Interesting vid of Baboons kidnapping feral puppies and raising them as pets just like how early man domesticated the dog. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2lSZPTa3ho[/youtube]


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