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Kraichgauer wrote:
I'm getting that on a thread that's supposed to be about Ferguson, Mo.
You mean the one that you derailed in your zeal to bash non-liberals at every opportunity, facts be damned?
Last I checked, you're getting "ganged up on" by me and Jacoby a little, not much of a gang we have.
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Stannis wrote:
You'll find them in many threads about the middle east.
You mean Ruveyn? He hates everyone, he's like a septuagenarian Dirty Harry that way.
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khaoz wrote:
If you don't think this place is amok with Conservatives, just say something that opposes their ideology and watch them gang up on you. And get away with it.
What? Those bastards, defending themselves when attacked! Such cheek!
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Stannis wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Stannis wrote:
I know a lot of people on WP advocate things like ethnic cleansing, and nuclear genocide.
Who?
You'll find them in many threads about the middle east.
Ethnic cleansing? Realy? Just because the enemy is of another ethnicity does not advocate ethnic cleansing.
Beng pro-nuclear weapons does not make someone a genocidal maniac. Peace through superior firepower or at least balance of power comes to mind which is a different animal all together.
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Stannis wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
There's plenty of conservatism, reactionary thought, etc on the internet.....PLENTY!
Don't let the supposed preponderance of liberal thought fool you.
Don't let the supposed preponderance of liberal thought fool you.
Conservatives rejoice! If you want to be told you're great for being rich or white or male, or kick the s**t out of minorities, or scapegoat the poor while championing semi plausible excuses to funnel public funds to the rich, then you are, I think, well catered for on the internet.
I know a lot of people on WP advocate things like ethnic cleansing, and nuclear genocide. There are also plenty of conservative voices on the internet from Free Republic, to the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, to hundreds of Newscorp publications, MRA's, rightwing "libertarian" astroturfers, and more.
Then there are the right wingers even here that want welfare to be cut/eliminated and their alternative solution/plan to address poverty is usually '...............' I wonder if its because they really draw a blank and cannot think of any other ways of adressing poverty in this country or they just don't want to actually say they are fine with all the people who depend on it ending up dead, or 'oh charity will be just as efficient' which I find naive.
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Dox47 wrote:
khaoz wrote:
If you don't think this place is amok with Conservatives, just say something that opposes their ideology and watch them gang up on you. And get away with it.
What? Those bastards, defending themselves when attacked! Such cheek!
Sorry man but bombing hospitals and schools with injured people and children in them is not self defense. But just my 2 cents on the matter.
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Raptor wrote:
Stannis wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Stannis wrote:
I know a lot of people on WP advocate things like ethnic cleansing, and nuclear genocide.
Who?
You'll find them in many threads about the middle east.
Ethnic cleansing? Realy? Just because the enemy is of another ethnicity does not advocate ethnic cleansing.
Beng pro-nuclear weapons does not make someone a genocidal maniac. Peace through superior firepower or at least balance of power comes to mind which is a different animal all together.
Thus far it doesn't seem we are achieving peace through superior fire-power.....if you think that just look at the current state of the world and tell me we are really moving towards 'peace'
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Sweetleaf wrote:
Stannis wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
There's plenty of conservatism, reactionary thought, etc on the internet.....PLENTY!
Don't let the supposed preponderance of liberal thought fool you.
Don't let the supposed preponderance of liberal thought fool you.
Conservatives rejoice! If you want to be told you're great for being rich or white or male, or kick the s**t out of minorities, or scapegoat the poor while championing semi plausible excuses to funnel public funds to the rich, then you are, I think, well catered for on the internet.
I know a lot of people on WP advocate things like ethnic cleansing, and nuclear genocide. There are also plenty of conservative voices on the internet from Free Republic, to the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, to hundreds of Newscorp publications, MRA's, rightwing "libertarian" astroturfers, and more.
Then there are the right wingers even here that want welfare to be cut/eliminated and their alternative solution/plan to address poverty is usually '...............' I wonder if its because they really draw a blank and cannot think of any other ways of adressing poverty in this country or they just don't want to actually say they are fine with all the people who depend on it ending up dead, or 'oh charity will be just as efficient' which I find naive.
Yep. it seems like right libertarians expect the poor to exchange basic provisions that they need for their survival, for some theoretical rights that they'll never have the resources to take advantage of in any meaningful way.
Right Libertarianism exists to benefit rich people. Right Libertarian movements put massive resources into obscuring class consciousness: tricking poor and middle class people into thinking that their interests are synonymous with those of the mega rich. By eliminating the welfare state, Rand Paul would strip many people of their positive rights, and thus the opportunity for them to derive much benefit from their negative rights. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_a ... ive_rights
He seems to be on the right (humane) side of some of the more draconian police state stuff, though. I guess the rich don't like being surveilled and to be on the receiving end of police brutality any more than poor people do.
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Sweetleaf wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Stannis wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Stannis wrote:
I know a lot of people on WP advocate things like ethnic cleansing, and nuclear genocide.
Who?
You'll find them in many threads about the middle east.
Ethnic cleansing? Realy? Just because the enemy is of another ethnicity does not advocate ethnic cleansing.
Beng pro-nuclear weapons does not make someone a genocidal maniac. Peace through superior firepower or at least balance of power comes to mind which is a different animal all together.
Thus far it doesn't seem we are achieving peace through superior fire-power.....if you think that just look at the current state of the world and tell me we are really moving towards 'peace'
It's about helping to ensure our nation does not come under attacked, not what goes on in the rest of the world. Last time I looked out my window I didnt see any ICBM contrails in the sky, tanks coming down my street, or paratroopers descending from above.
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K_Kelly wrote:
IT'S NOT FAIR, why must conservatives have a huge demographic disadvantage? It's not very fair. How would liberals like it if most on the internet skewed conservative?
In a liberal's mind, anything less than 100% liberal is skewed conservative.
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Sweetleaf wrote:
Sorry man but bombing hospitals and schools with injured people and children in them is not self defense. But just my 2 cents on the matter.
Who do you think I'm talking about? I don't think Raptor has been bombing any schools and hospitals lately but I could be mistaken.
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Dox47 wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Sorry man but bombing hospitals and schools with injured people and children in them is not self defense. But just my 2 cents on the matter.
Who do you think I'm talking about? I don't think Raptor has been bombing any schools and hospitals lately but I could be mistaken.
You're not mistaken.
Lowe's and Home Depot have been out of C4 for months. They have the caps and even detcord but not the goshdarned C4.
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I think you have to sign for those caps now.Neighbor used to get them at the feed store,then I think they put a limit on them.He got depressed because he was no longer able to blast out his cave.The rest of the neighbors were glad because we got really tired of all the explosions.
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Misslizard wrote:
I think you have to sign for those caps now.Neighbor used to get them at the feed store,then I think they put a limit on them.He got depressed because he was no longer able to blast out his cave.The rest of the neighbors were glad because we got really tired of all the explosions.
He's not creative enough, then......
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Stannis wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Stannis wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
There's plenty of conservatism, reactionary thought, etc on the internet.....PLENTY!
Don't let the supposed preponderance of liberal thought fool you.
Don't let the supposed preponderance of liberal thought fool you.
Conservatives rejoice! If you want to be told you're great for being rich or white or male, or kick the s**t out of minorities, or scapegoat the poor while championing semi plausible excuses to funnel public funds to the rich, then you are, I think, well catered for on the internet.
I know a lot of people on WP advocate things like ethnic cleansing, and nuclear genocide. There are also plenty of conservative voices on the internet from Free Republic, to the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, to hundreds of Newscorp publications, MRA's, rightwing "libertarian" astroturfers, and more.
Then there are the right wingers even here that want welfare to be cut/eliminated and their alternative solution/plan to address poverty is usually '...............' I wonder if its because they really draw a blank and cannot think of any other ways of adressing poverty in this country or they just don't want to actually say they are fine with all the people who depend on it ending up dead, or 'oh charity will be just as efficient' which I find naive.
Yep. it seems like right libertarians expect the poor to exchange basic provisions that they need for their survival, for some theoretical rights that they'll never have the resources to take advantage of in any meaningful way.
Right Libertarianism exists to benefit rich people. Right Libertarian movements put massive resources into obscuring class consciousness: tricking poor and middle class people into thinking that their interests are synonymous with those of the mega rich. By eliminating the welfare state, Rand Paul would strip many people of their positive rights, and thus the opportunity for them to derive much benefit from their negative rights.
He seems to be on the right side of some of the more draconian police state stuff, though.
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Sure, go ahead and demonize libertarians like Japs during WWII. This paints you in a wonderfully rational light. Or maybe you could try engaging with our proposed alternatives on these issues instead of dismissing them out of hand and perpetrating an argumentum ad absurdum fallacy.
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