Do the majority of guys with A.S. never get a girlfriend?

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13 Oct 2014, 9:30 am

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There most be somsomething wrong with my personality that people don't tell me because I look good but never had a bf at 22. So it also happens to girls :(
well hope it does not remain permanently hopeless for us



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13 Oct 2014, 5:52 pm

I've put a lot of effort into figuring out how to flirt and socialize, and I'm now considered "charming" and a "womanizer" because I get girls easily and go through them rather quickly with almost zero emotional investment. I've held a relationship up to 6 months, but I lied and cheated because she neglected me. You can certainly get a girlfriend and get laid, and the only reason I can't have long term relationships is because of myself.
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17 Oct 2014, 11:13 am

Nichard wrote:
I've put a lot of effort into figuring out how to flirt and socialize, and I'm now considered "charming" and a "womanizer" because I get girls easily and go through them rather quickly with almost zero emotional investment. I've held a relationship up to 6 months, but I lied and cheated because she neglected me. You can certainly get a girlfriend and get laid, and the only reason I can't have long term relationships is because of myself.
Have hope! :]


that makes me feel more optimistic, plus I had a good Skype session with someone yesterday that sort of changed my outlook on things



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22 Oct 2014, 6:43 pm

I do feel a little more optimistic now, it's just the lack of intimacy, sex and companionship with the opposite sex in my life is making it very hard for me to focus on other areas of life



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23 Oct 2014, 9:03 pm

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There's a HUGE difference between:
1) not being movie-star/conventionally handsome
2) being so very ugly that folks cross the street to avoid looking at your face
3) falling someplace in between those two "poles" of attractiveness and making the best of what you've got.

A good 90% of the population falls under #3.

If you do to believe me, a fun little exercise is to get a copy of your local paper - specifically, the weddings/engagement announcements page. Do all those folks look like movie stars? Are they all billionaires who attract pretty women with their $$, which is enough to offset the fact that he looks like the elephant man? Or are there a lot of people who look like, well, the folks in your town/city??

And what do you do if you're #2 and have aspergers? You either become a billionaire or die alone?


If you have AS & are #2, well, I guess you (1) make the best of the looks you've got (neat, clean, somewhat stylish) and (2) hope for the best. There's not much else you CAN do.



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24 Oct 2014, 12:55 am

There's a Russian saying "hope dies last".



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24 Oct 2014, 2:36 am

theres always suicide. thats my long term plan. though with how the world is going i hoping for a shtf or world war. mean sucks bunch of others will die but i don't really look forward to having to kill myself not to mention hell.

I don't recommend suicide to others though.



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24 Oct 2014, 3:08 am

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theres always suicide. thats my long term plan. though with how the world is going i hoping for a shtf or world war. mean sucks bunch of others will die but i don't really look forward to having to kill myself not to mention hell.

I don't recommend suicide to others though.


I understand you. But I wouldn't rely on world war now. As they say "want to do something perfect - do it yourself".

Howeer I already wrote my death note - but not going to commit suicide soon. Maybe few months later. More time before = more fails in life = less hope to succed.



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24 Oct 2014, 1:23 pm

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theres always suicide. thats my long term plan. though with how the world is going i hoping for a shtf or world war. mean sucks bunch of others will die but i don't really look forward to having to kill myself not to mention hell.

I don't recommend suicide to others though.


I understand you. But I wouldn't rely on world war now. As they say "want to do something perfect - do it yourself".

Howeer I already wrote my death note - but not going to commit suicide soon. Maybe few months later. More time before = more fails in life = less hope to succed.


I hope you don't go through with it. I value others lives.



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24 Oct 2014, 7:50 pm

now the hardest part is taking action without being needy or desperate



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23 Apr 2015, 10:56 am

I think for a majority of guys with high-functioning autism, they won't be getting a girlfriend until they're in their 20s. The teenage years is a bad time for a lot of us in terms of dating. Some of us have poor hygiene and we may look nerdy or plain looking to girls. And we have a hard time flirting and showing interests in girls we like so any girl who is initially attracted to us will either think we're uninterested or she will quickly move on to another guy who will ask her out.

And no offense to anyone here but I don't see a lot of really attractive aspie guys and I know at least 50 dudes with autism. Some of the guys, it's not that they're that unattractive but they don't put any effort into their appearance at all so it makes them appear even more unattractive. Like me for instance, I'm definitely not Brad Pitt but at least I comb my hair, shave, shower, and brush my teeth everyday. You'd be surprised how better looking you can be if you take care of your appearance and if you work out and try to either gain or lose some weight. My problem is that i'm really short and slim with a weird voice and an older face on a younger looking body and unfortunately theres nothing you can do about that but if you're tall and slim with a normal voice, you already have an advantage over me looks wise, all you have to do is just put some effort into your appearance a little bit and you will have more opportunities to attract women.

Being tall and slim is the ideal body type in a man. If you're between 5 ft 10 to 6 ft 3, you're the ideal height for attractiveness.



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23 Apr 2015, 7:48 pm

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I think for a majority of guys with high-functioning autism, they won't be getting a girlfriend until they're in their 20s. The teenage years is a bad time for a lot of us in terms of dating. Some of us have poor hygiene and we may look nerdy or plain looking to girls. And we have a hard time flirting and showing interests in girls we like so any girl who is initially attracted to us will either think we're uninterested or she will quickly move on to another guy who will ask her out.

And no offense to anyone here but I don't see a lot of really attractive aspie guys and I know at least 50 dudes with autism. Some of the guys, it's not that they're that unattractive but they don't put any effort into their appearance at all so it makes them appear even more unattractive. Like me for instance, I'm definitely not Brad Pitt but at least I comb my hair, shave, shower, and brush my teeth everyday. You'd be surprised how better looking you can be if you take care of your appearance and if you work out and try to either gain or lose some weight. My problem is that i'm really short and slim with a weird voice and an older face on a younger looking body and unfortunately theres nothing you can do about that but if you're tall and slim with a normal voice, you already have an advantage over me looks wise, all you have to do is just put some effort into your appearance a little bit and you will have more opportunities to attract women.

Being tall and slim is the ideal body type in a man. If you're between 5 ft 10 to 6 ft 3, you're the ideal height for attractiveness.


what if guys don't experience having a girlfriend at all in their 20's? not until 30's or later? something must have went developmentally wrong with them



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23 Apr 2015, 7:55 pm

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theres always suicide. thats my long term plan. though with how the world is going i hoping for a shtf or world war. mean sucks bunch of others will die but i don't really look forward to having to kill myself not to mention hell.

I don't recommend suicide to others though.



Join the army. Or better yet, the USMC.



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23 Apr 2015, 8:56 pm

I looked up Susan Boyle and she didn't have her first boyfriend till she was in her 50s. That's pretty dang old to be in your first relationship. Never assume you're going to be forever alone because who knows? The love of your life could be around the corner. So what you didn't have a gf in your 20s or even your 30s? It could happen in your 40s or 50s when you've finally given up and you think all hope is lost.



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23 Apr 2015, 9:08 pm

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I looked up Susan Boyle and she didn't have her first boyfriend till she was in her 50s. That's pretty dang old to be in your first relationship. Never assume you're going to be forever alone because who knows? The love of your life could be around the corner. So what you didn't have a gf in your 20s or even your 30s? It could happen in your 40s or 50s when you've finally given up and you think all hope is lost.


and it's more shocking to hear of a woman being a huge late bloomer like that, since women are valued for their youth more than men are(since youth indicates fertility), and women don't have to be the initiators.



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23 Apr 2015, 9:14 pm

(Apologies ahead of time if this turns out to be a double-post... I need to test if it's an error with the forums not posting my previous attempt...)

I was diagnosed with Asperger's and was also diagnosed as not having any mental-condition (apparently if you want to get diagnosed with Asperger's just keep on seeing on shrink after another until they give you said diagnosis).

I don't really have a girl-friend, not because I cannot get one, but simply because I do not bother to invest the time for one, considering that I've busied my interests with other things for which I place much higher-priority. Ultimately, I think that guys who are inexperienced with women are the least-likely to get a girl, but on the other hand, relationships are a karmic-process, too. I've done massive amounts of cybering with literally dozens and dozens (probably over 100 by now) nice girls in on-line video-games but that's largely because I know how their pleasure-sensors are triggered.

Some of them I had married in-game, one I am actually still married to in-game, but we're doing that just for fun (not going to turn into a serious real-world relationship), some of them wanted to have real-world relationships with me, but I eventually ended up losing them due to mistakingly making them think that I was having sex with other girls somewhere (three in particular of whom I kind of regret even joking about having sex with someone other than them since they were actually very nice girls of whom I could have had a family with by now but on the other hand, I also value the time I am able to have to myself, and I once talked to a married man of 40 years old, who had a 20-year-old wife, who told me that he values the time that he can have to himself, because older men would actually rather be by themselves than always have to pay attention to women, and there was also a fourth girl who was a very beautiful british blonde-haired blue-eyed teenager from Britain who was living in Kansas, whom I even talked on the phone with, but I didn't have a proper phone-device, and she tried to use SMS even though my Magic-Jack doesn't even have the capability of reading SMS, and we thus lost contact after a few days, but we did cyber with her being the one who initiated and taking off her clothes without me needing to do the leading, kind of wish I could have kept her now, considering that she was a 10 in physical-attractiveness), and there was one from a long time ago that I simply stopped contacting since that was my first experience with a potentially serious-confirmed (sort of mutually agreed) relationship since she had images on her social-pages of kissing someone so it was too painful for me to handle due to the fact that I was a 20-year-old virgin (I think I was around that age) at the time who had never even hugged a girl before in my life (not until I turned 26 but it was with a really hot girl who was 24-years-old at the time that I ended up falling in-love with for a bit for coincidental-reasons but some misunderstandings and life-circumstances interfered with our "relationship" being able to transition into that of an official boyfriend/girlfriend & eventually getting married to each other but otherwise I think we would have gotten married if I didn't just give up so easily but on the other hand I didn't have enough experience with women at that time to be able to pick up on the queues of what she really meant/wanted instead of just losing my hope with her like a loser instead of being the gentleman in proceeding to seduce her and give her the pleasures that she actually desired like a winner), and I continued to remain a virgin for what-ever-variety of reasons until I was 27, but I was also having erectile-dysfunction problems since around the age of 24, although I've been able to restore my sexual-performance, even though I no longer have uncontrollable boners that remain hard for over six hours in a row no matter how hard I try to fap at it to get it to calm down (and some of my cybering-sessions literally went on for a good five or six hours in a row, because we were that horny, and there were even times when my cum shot all the way up to reach the ceiling).

Apologies or the above wall-of-text, anyway, when I lost my virginity, I was with this married woman in her 30s (she was still quite hot though other than her loss of breasts with a look of a 9 [she had the appearance of a 19-year-old teenager]). I had sex with her every day for about a week, whilst she used her husband's money to pay for our hotel-stays, but circumstances caused us to lose each other's contact-information as well as being able to locate one-another (she really wanted to be with me permanently though and stated that the happiest she had ever been in her life was when she was with me). I used to be in-love (first one) with an Ukrainian-girl back during my mid-teen years due to all of the excessive amount of synchronous-coincidences that occurred between us but there were, I suppose I would have to call, karmic-circumstances, that we bitterly ended up going through what felt like a divorce even though we weren't even married (this is where it gets hard to explain since it felt like a kind of psychic-marriage that we had from the very time that we had met).

Anyway, I suppose I am not necessarily the "majority" of "Aspies" but on the other hand, I am certainly the non-conformist, who is generally not very interested in social-interactions (unless it's to seduce any of you fine young ladies reading this), and I know from experience that the seduction of the ladies requires a kind of layered process. Basically, for you guys who have the opportunity to hug girls, the ones who are willing to press their hips into yours are generally willing to be advanced by you if you felt like proceeding to seduce them, and if you're "lucky enough" to meet with your potential girl to potentially seduce into becoming your girl-friend, they like having the sides of their necks licked, and their ear-lobes nibbled upon gently. When cybering, I generally start my seductions with hugging, watching the reactions, then if they're not too opposed, I might continue hugging, perhaps even add some cuddling and snuggling.

The latest babe of mine sounds like she's probably from an Eastern-European nation, although we haven't done it yet, anyway, I think you guys who want girls should learn some patience, get some practice with meeting & approaching & talking to & even initiating hugs with women, and if you want to know the "order" in which you should take the "steps" into "seducing" your "would-be" potential future girl-friend (whom hopefully you'll be able to keep & have a great relationship with one another [but this is generally not something you'll be doing upon first-time-meeting... more like maybe the second or third time]), put your arms around her, then gaze into her eyes as you slowly comb your fingers through her hair repeatedly, then keep holding onto her for a while and then slowly inch your face towards hers until you start to tenderly brush your lips upon hers as you run your fingers down her hair repeatedly.

Transition into licking upon the side of her neck and nibbling gently upon her ear-lobes, perhaps for a few minutes, before proceeding onto the next step, like slowly & quietly and gently slipping your fingers beneath her blouse, but if she resists, just give her more time to get comfortable with you, sometimes some of them have to stop at this stage for the day, but the next day, she will generally be willing to let you slip your fingers up her blouse and move your hands further up her body to caress her, use the tips of your fingers to trace upon the surface of her skin, and if she tells you that her body is starting to feel hot, that is when you will cup your hands around her breasts & rub your thumbs upon her nipples in small circular-motions, otherwise you will know from enough experience when is the appropriate time to fondle her breasts.

From there, especially if she tells you that she's wet (down there), the rest of your seduction should be smooth-sailing and I think this bit of information should be enough to at least get you Aspies men started. I have a lot more things I should probably say but going to stop here for now (and I'd probably better save this post into a document-file in case it gets deleted for some reason due to its "semi-graphic" or at least "suggestive" nature). Come something else I need to tend to right now anyway...

Edit: Good, this thing posted successfully, anyway, I have an additional thing to add, that if you do in fact, want a girl-friend, and to actually keep her, you need to stay "loyal" to just her. Sure, various other women may be attractive, but you know what, the answer to having sex with lots of different attractive-looks is to get your girl to get into "cos-play" and buy her all of the wigs & accessories & tailor the costumes as necessary. That is my plan, now that I am experienced enough and ready to actually accept a girl as a girl-friend, because serious nice girls who really do want to be in a relationship, most of whom will be loyal to you if you're better at giving her sexual-pleasures than she can get from elsewhere (because, honestly, most guys are clueless as to how to maximise a woman's sexual-pleasures), and she will also want to be in an "exclusive-relationship" with you (the exception with this are those other girls who don't care about relationships who will brag to their girl-friends about how you made her cum/orgasm five times in a row before you were done with her as those types actually want to share such experiences with their friends in which case a number of her friends might approach you to experience that really great sex you can give her for themselves). Anyway, with the existence of cos-play, you can remain exclusive to having sex with only your girl, even when you find other looks highly attractive (and I assure you that she will be willing to go along with it if you're able to give her really great sex !). Phew, alright, hopefully what I've posted helps some of you guys and girls with your shyness-issues.


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