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sonofghandi
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27 Oct 2014, 2:41 pm

vermontsavant wrote:
i voted AGAINST him twice.i voted McCain in 08 and romney in 12.he is not the worst presdent by far and he is not that liberal either.ive been a bit suprised that the left has embraced him as much as they have.

worst presidents

1.andrew johnson
2.linden b. johnson
3.bill clinton
4.jimmy carter


I see Clinton as mediocre, and Carter I'd put on my top 5 most ineffective presidents. I could see some very valid arguments for the other two, though (but I would still rate LBJ somewhere in the middle overall, with some highs and some lows).

I would definitely agree that Obama is definitely not anywhere near the liberal he is painted as (by both sides of the aisle). To be honest, Obama and Romney are actually fairly close on the political spectrum, with Obama actually falling to the right of him on a few issues.


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27 Oct 2014, 4:43 pm

Raptor wrote:
List of active drive in theaters in the US:
https://www.drive-ins.com/theaters/open

Can't help ya with the full service gas unless you want to move to Oregon or New Joyzie.
there is a great drive in in Northfield,MASS


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27 Oct 2014, 4:45 pm

sonofghandi wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
i voted AGAINST him twice.i voted McCain in 08 and romney in 12.he is not the worst presdent by far and he is not that liberal either.ive been a bit suprised that the left has embraced him as much as they have.

worst presidents

1.andrew johnson
2.linden b. johnson
3.bill clinton
4.jimmy carter


I see Clinton as mediocre, and Carter I'd put on my top 5 most ineffective presidents. I could see some very valid arguments for the other two, though (but I would still rate LBJ somewhere in the middle overall, with some highs and some lows).

I would definitely agree that Obama is definitely not anywhere near the liberal he is painted as (by both sides of the aisle). To be honest, Obama and Romney are actually fairly close on the political spectrum, with Obama actually falling to the right of him on a few issues.
yea,very perceptive


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