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The_Face_of_Boo
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18 Sep 2014, 12:44 pm

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

^^ Yes. appearance has its impact on personality, for example if your looks were mocked at school all during your childhood years then certainly it will have a permanent effect on your personality when you're adult, for better or worse.

Good to find someone who agrees with me.

This is what I am saying.

The ugly are ridiculed and bullied, forced to be pre-occupied with their own interests than have friends.

They often end up 'growing out of' their uglyness and become at least average looking, and by then they have developed a great and unique personality with all that time spent alone.

Beautiful people are assumed to ALWAYS have a great personality. This is a real scientific phenenone known as the 'beauty-is-good' effect.

People are naturally drawn to better looking people no matter what.

Beautiful people almost always turn out extroverted, confident, etc. but at the price of being very focused on their looks. Some are nice, other's just end up becoming awful people with unlikeable personalities.

Looks do matter to a society whether we deny it or not.

but it doesb't always develop to a pleasant personality, the bullying victim might become very bitter.

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20 Sep 2014, 9:03 am

Outrider wrote:

Not really, because when you work on your appearance to the point of being competitive to other women, this isn't really confident at all. It really is shallow and materialistic, thinking being the trendiest, most conventially attractive etc. is what makes you look the best.

It just means you need to outdo the rest to feel better about yourself and rasie your own little ego. Again, this goes back to egotistical.

True confidence is more related to self-esteem. If you can be okay with how you look when you look average, to me this is the most attractive thing ever.

Of course there can be awful personality unattractive women, so obviously a good personality has to go with pride in looking average/unvconventially attractive.

Really I guess I just want a girl/female who shares my own ideals. I am not too fed up with taking care of my appearance. I'm not a fat, lazy slob or anything.

I am a very thin boy with little muscle on his body, but I am in no way concerned about developing muscle mass like other boys and men. I play basketball, that's enough. I never cared about taking care of my teeth and would honestly not care if a female/girl had bad teeth either. I can somehow make my hair look perfectly fine even though I do not comb it, all I do is wash it, let it grow, cut it. And other stuff.

Basically, the majority of people, male female, family, friends etc. have said out of 10 I would be a 6, 6.5 or even in some cases a 7 out of 10 when it comes to looks, even though I do not obsess over my looks and only look how I want myself to look.

I imagine a female equivalent to myself would be most attractive to me. A girl who can look a 6.5 or 7 without even trying. A girl my age who looks HOW SHE WANTS TO LOOK and not HOW SOCIETY THINKS SHE SHOULD LOOK. Sadly I have never met one as of yet.

The 'pretty girls' who go above and beyond to look good spend countless time and money on fashion, gym, exercise, diet, makeup, perfume, etc.

All that effort to look like something of a plastic barbie doll and to discard the real you and your real appearance/values.

Anyone of any appearance can have any kind of personality, good or bad.

It is the truly amazing people who can have a good personality, and look average but still magically end up being one of the most best looking people ever.

Beauty taken to the extremes of push up bras, excessive use of make up and taking steroids is over the top and I understand the choice to avoid that type of that person, you truly want someone that values what you value..but to question someone's personality based on what empowers them as a person isn't painting in the best light. Some people to feel empowerment from attention and beauty but that is their choice, not yours to make and it's a matter of asking yourself to respect the will of others. Some people also do it out of insecurity and you should not be one to empower yourself through the insecurities other people feel, many people in that world suffer from body dysmorphic disorder or confidence issues themselves.

For some, that is their escape from the depression or anxiety they feel on a daily basis or an escape from the insecurity they feel in themselves and for someone with a single digit body fat and minus thirty inch waist with upper body mass, I know how it feels to still receive complements in the gym but still feel like you need to push yourself to the next extreme or limit. You don't know what leads someone to that situation where they might use a push up bra or inject themselves with a steroid, you don't know what leads someone to that moment.

What they are doing isn't infringing on anyone else, it isn't infringing you, it would be different if I told you to feel empathy for them because you don't know what lead them to the indiscriminate murder of innocent civilians. That is their choice to make and you are judging them based on stereotypical views.

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20 Sep 2014, 9:10 am

I would consider this a good example of unconventionally attractive: Carrie Hamilton (Carol Burnett's daughter). Unfortunately she died young, 12 years ago. In fact I would consider Carol Burnett unconventionally attractive, although it's hard to find young pictures of her in which she is not making a face or wearing a fright wig (same goes for Tracey Ullman).

Actually here is a good one of Tracey Ullman when she still was a singer and hadn't yet started wearing fat suits:

OK I don't know why the first image isn't showing, you can select, right click, and click "Go to http://..." and you'll see it.

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24 Sep 2014, 1:11 am

[img][800:1200]http://www.blackrunway.com/blog/images/2009/08/Grace-Jones_020.jpg[/img]
Grace Jones is conventionally very attractive but her look ignores the tradition of "feminine beauty"

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