Why is it that black on white crime is rarely reported?

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18 Sep 2014, 1:48 pm

sonofghandi wrote:
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But, perhaps, seeing a racist under every bush is a form of paranoia gone racist?


I'll be the first to say that many jump to inaccurate conclusions, but to pretend like racism is not still a massive force in this country is fairly obtuse.


The first racist I saw I was 9 when we were in TN on vacation from IL when a large white man smashed a little black boy's face into the water fountain he was drinking from. There were no repercussions (it was 1952), and the boy's father hurried him away. I believe this was a racist act.

I saw another racist when we were looking for property (more recently) in FL and the real estate agent got lost....pulled to the side of the road, and hollered to the black man driving an earthmover next to the road: "Hey Boy....get your ass over here" and the black man came over and gave directions to the white agent, and was very polite. I believe this was a racist act.

So it's not that I don't believe racism isn't very common.

But I don't believe every white/black or black/white violent incident is racist. However many people profit from making everything sound racist...one, in my humble opinion, is the NAACP. I personally think that Zimmerman might have killed a Latino or Asian just as readily. But it was immediately turned into a white/black issue (by the NAACP?), as are other horrible crimes.



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18 Sep 2014, 1:56 pm

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But I don't believe every white/black or black/white violent incident is racist. However many people profit from making everything sound racist...one, in my humble opinion, is the NAACP. I personally think that Zimmerman might have killed a Latino or Asian just as readily. But it was immediately turned into a white/black issue (by the NAACP?), as are other horrible crimes.


^This I mostly agree with. But my issue is that too many people use the fact that there are those who see racism everywhere as an excuse to pretend racism does not exist. Just because the boy cried wolf too many times doesn't mean that his sheep aren't getting eaten.

And for the record, I personally don't think it was so much about race with Zimmerman as it was seeing a teen out after dark and Zimmerman dreaming of being the big hero. I think what turned it into a race issue more than anything was when certain conservative news outlets tried to paint Martin in a bad light by calling him a instantly calling him a thug and the whole hoody= likely criminal BS.

But based on everything that has come out so far, I am fairly convinced that the Michael Brown incident was a direct result of race based profiling.


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18 Sep 2014, 2:02 pm

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Then you just aren't looking.


If I have to go out of my way to look for racism*, then it's obviously not much of a problem.

*Being treated differently by the law based on your ethnicity/skin color


I'm not talking about going out of your way to see it. It is all over the place.

If can't see it actually happening for some reason and you would prefer numerical data, just look up some crime and punishment stats broken down by race. Especially in terms of drug crime. Considering rates of drug use are nearly flat across the board among all races, those with darker skin are more often arrested, convicted, and receive longer sentences for the same period of time. If racism isn't a factor, why don't you see SWAT raids on frat houses?


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18 Sep 2014, 2:25 pm

SWAT raids? YGTBK

Universities have to be beaten like dogs just to force them to punish rapists.



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18 Sep 2014, 2:39 pm

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SWAT raids? YGTBK

Universities have to be beaten like dogs just to force them to punish rapists.


^Another example.


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18 Sep 2014, 4:02 pm

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So, not only has black on white crime not increased (see Viper's post above), but the bias in the media doesn't go the way you think it does.

Black children are less likely to receive media attention when they go missing, for example: http://www.academia.edu/857391/Missing_ ... dren_Cases (usually being "missing" is the result of a murder or kidnap)

The the media only report what sells, there are lot of missing children black and white that never are reported on.

Cases like Madeleine Mccann they have all the ingredient of a perfect story, but the attention on that has drawn the focus off many missing children.



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18 Sep 2014, 4:10 pm

0_equals_true wrote:
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So, not only has black on white crime not increased (see Viper's post above), but the bias in the media doesn't go the way you think it does.

Black children are less likely to receive media attention when they go missing, for example: http://www.academia.edu/857391/Missing_ ... dren_Cases (usually being "missing" is the result of a murder or kidnap)

The the media only report what sells, there are lot of missing children black and white that never are reported on.

Cases like Madeleine Mccann they have all the ingredient of a perfect story, but the attention on that has drawn the focus off many missing children.

Of course, you can argue whether the racism originates from the media or the public, but that doesn't change that it is there.

Madeleine McCann is probably the best example, and in many ways that case was a perfect storm, but fewer of those perfect storms are black than you would expect. Black people and white people, particularly young white women and girls, are not treated equally when it comes to the reporting of missing persons.



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18 Sep 2014, 8:42 pm

sonofghandi wrote:
And for the record, I personally don't think it was so much about race with Zimmerman as it was seeing a teen out after dark and Zimmerman dreaming of being the big hero. I think what turned it into a race issue more than anything was when certain conservative news outlets tried to paint Martin in a bad light by calling him a instantly calling him a thug and the whole hoody= likely criminal BS.


Your timeline is out of whack on that, the counter-spin against Martin was exactly that, a reaction to the way the thing was being painted as "innocent black youth gunned down by racist white guy". Note that I'm not condoning it, just pointing out that it came afterwards.


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