I'm Conservative and I have a normal IQ...!

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Everyone thinks Conservatives are stupid. I don't agree with this. Its simply a different view point. I have a 130 IQ which is about average, and I'm very conservative. I support traditional marriage, don't agree with abortion, and I don't support large Government spending. We need to balance that budget! I think people are largely making assumptions. If you see liberals they usually are less informed about certain situations. I would never say someone is less intelligent just because they believe differently. To me, that would be less intelligent in of itself. I don't see why liberals claim superiority over their counter parts.

By definition THE AVERAGE IQ is 100.

Conservatives...

He might be saying the average for conservatives is 130 and the average for liberals is 70, so (130 + 70 ) / 2 = 100.

Last edited by LoveNotHate on 22 Sep 2014, 3:15 pm, edited 2 times in total.

I figured he was from Lake Wobegon, where all of the children are above average ?

I agree with some of the principles conservatives stand for, but disagree with some of their interpretation or applications of those principles. If they are really about individual freedom and government not interfering with our private lives, then they should not care about anyone's sexual habits or recreational drug use as long as that isn't infringing on anyone else's rights.

On some subjects it isn't so much that conservatives are less informed, but that they are very badly misinformed. Many popular conservative speakers and sources spew a lot of falsehoods to put it mildly. Garbage in, garbage out. Since they are so badly misinformed about it, their opinions are wrong. For example, IF evolution were the way conservatives think it is (they think it is highly unlikely with no real evidence supporting it) then of course it would be ridiculous for anyone to accept it as an observed testable fact of nature. But they are wrong, very wrong about that. This sure makes them look stupid. To deny evolution is just as dumb as to insist the earth is flat in spite of all the evidence to the contrary.

As I see it, conservatives are motivated more by greed, ignorance and fear than liberals are. Even though many conservatives claim to be Christian, they seem to be all about dog eat dog every man for himself instead of showing compassion for those less fortunate than themselves. Despite your opinion, what I see is that liberals seem better informed on most subjects than conservatives, and in general the more educated one is the more liberal one's views. Some say that is because the education system has liberal bias, but of course it could also be that the more one knows, the more enlightened one becomes.

My complaint with liberals is that their philosophy is about selfishness.

For example, some will support immigration unless it affects their job, if it does, then they claim "evil rich people want to bring in cheap labor". Some will support tax increases, unless it is their taxes increased. In America we seen the unions decrying Obamacare because it was going to cut into their "cadillac health care benefits".

I have explained this many times with regards to the Socialist parties. Liberals/Socialists express anger about jobs moving to poorer nations, because they want those jobs, and don't care that the jobs are going to people in absolute poverty.

Liberals generally only want to help people as long as it does not hurt them personally, so it is a philosophy based on selfishness.

Liberals aren't everyone.

That?s what it is but to liberals conservatives are evil and heartless.



Liberals love to throw statistics and studies in there to make people not want to be conservative.
Statistics and studies (done with pre-determined results) that indicate that conservatives are:
? Old
? Unhealthy or fat
? Religious to the point of zealotry
? Uneducated

No one wants to be any of the above so they use the bandwagon method in an attempt to get people to want to be more liberal.

Yep
"Don't give them a piece of MY pie!" is what they're saying.

The average IQ for conservatives is probably higher than liberals, hence the claim of 130 being average.

Conservatives basically copied what used to be called (classical) liberal, but at the same time retain some of the social conservatism.

Like many Libertarians who are only really Libertarians when it suit them, in fact they are pretty protectionist.

You had to know that at some point a study showing a correlation between conservatism and lower IQ would be posted. So here it is:

http://66.135.55.40/DaveSource.com/Frin ... bility.pdf

A big caveat is that they are defining conservatism very literally as wanting to conserve things just as they are- sticking with tradition. That may or may not correlate with specific political party platforms. It's also an international study, which mixes things up politically.

It also doesn't ultimately say that a conservative person is likely to have a lower IQ than a liberal person (which rvacountrysinger rightly objects to, plus there are many brilliant conservatives that can be googled up) but rather that a person with lower IQ is more likely to be attracted to conservatism because it offers less ambiguity and more certainty.

I am not saying I agree with the findings, although I am liberal (and would thus be flattered). But it shows partly where the meme came from (there were a handful of studies, I just linked one). Or then again, maybe the meme predated the studies and it shows confirmation bias on the part of the possibly liberal and definately intelligent researchers. Statistics can be tortured until they confess to anything. I am particularly suspicious of statistics that involve IQ tests since confounders are so hard to separate.

They use a sliding scale for conservatives.

I don't really care about IQ score, the quality of argument is more important for policy discussions.

Arguing form position of authority be it IQ, of some other status is a common fallacy.

I don't put much stock in studies since a study can be done to back any opinion. I'm sure someone could do a study espousing the nutritional benefits of eating dog s**t but that doesnt make it factual.

All of this party political stuff is really irrelevant to actual issues.

This an other negative campaigning is why any people just can't be bothered with politics.

Personally I think that manifesto politics is profoundly stupid, and unrealistic, but it is a good dummy/pacifier to placate people who want the same things every election.

130 IQ is not average. Average IQ in the US is about 98. To say Liberals are "less informed" is your opinion, not verified by facts. One verified fact is that people who watch no news source at all are more informed about what is going on in the news than Fox news viewers, not that Fox news is the only source of views for Conservatives. To say that Liberals are less intelligent because they have different views you are contradicting your own previous statement. Your statement above is full of assumptions. Intelligence has nothing to do with knowledge.