Still confused about climate change...
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Are you not seeing the irony of literally programming people to behave exactly as you want them to and then calling that "immune to the ill effects of negative programming".?
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Are you not seeing the irony of literally programming people to behave exactly as you want them to and then calling that "immune to the ill effects of negative programming".?
Everyone is gonna be programmed. It's how we live. You gotta pick the programming that will help the most people, and other inhabitants of the planet, live healthy, successful lives. I aim for that type of programming. Consumerism is a gluttony based program and gluttony has traditionally been considered a bad thing.
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One issue though is no matter what our genetics are at birth there is the potential for epigenetic effects and neuroplasticity from the environment that can make even identical twins seem like polar opposite people in many areas of life.
I myself, have moved from 44 to 45 on the AQ test to an 11; 195 to 92 on the Aspie quiz; the mid 50's to 95 on the Emotional Quotient test; and additionally, a move from an INTJ personality to an ENFP personality in just the span of a few months as a result of novel environmental stimulus.
And no, there is really no way to control the environment in foresight; it is always going to be unpredictable depending on the cultural changes at hand.
So in effect, any substantial genetic changes could be trumped by the stress of environmental change required for basic human survival.
And nah, scientists don't even yet understand the full mechanism that makes anti-depressants work or not work.
The human brain is really not something to play around with too much, in my opinion.
And beyond that, it is the extroverts who are usually, overall, in control, of political leaning policy changes, and they are not likely going to allow something like that to happen, as they know how fun it is to be an extrovert.
And some folks like me who have moved to polar opposites do most definitely agree too. I love being out in the public with other loving folks, more than I can imagine ever keeping myself in a room with either a computer, TV, or even book, now.
I thrive off of people now; they most definitely motivate me to higher aspirations and happiness in life.
Honestly, while I didn't always feel this way, even the thought of your genetic suggestion actually coming to fruition, sounds depressing to me, as for me all human diversity is the spice of life. I try to escape 'the same', more than anything else. But that's just my opinion, from living in both worlds now, and yes, sometimes almost at once, still. :)
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^^I am talking about genetic predisposition and this makes inclinations very strong. It is a much greater influence than you think. Take one person who is able to handle a lot of stress and another cannot. You can find the reason why in their genes, a lot of time. So much is genetic. More than we realize.
Even in identical twins, there could be very minute, subtle differences in their DNA, enough to produce these different temperaments. Perhaps they are not truly identical, they are just very similar looking? Sometimes, siblings, even fraternal twins, can look very similar even though they are not truly identical and this would create an error when people say they are identical when they aren't really. I would suspect genetically identical twins to be very similar in all ways. If a pair of twins look very similar, a doctor could be fooled into thinking they are identical when they are in fact fraternal.
Okay one thing that's really weird about what scientists say about climate change it defies anything we have seen on planet earth previously. Even when there has been much warmth and volcanic activity, for example. releasing a lot of gasses into the atmosphere that would warm the earth, ice ages have been more common than warmer periods.
That is not saying climate change isn't possible or has happened in the past or will happen in the future. What makes scientists so sure it will cause a greenhouse effect that will be long lasting? It's never done it before.
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http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... -consensus
The fact is that the scientific consensus in favor of global warming is overwhelming.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific ... ate_change
Yes, that is wiki. However note that they provide links to primary sources to each scientific organizations claims.
This next site (from Scientific American) takes on all the junk science from the global warming denier?s cult.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... -nonsense/
Of course some may site the fraudulent Oregon petition.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/OISM-Pe ... roject.htm
Of course some may site the fraudulent ?climategate? nonsense. To say that we found a neat trick is like saying we found a neat trick to do this calculus problem in fewer steps.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/Climate ... hacked.htm
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/
As for other ?news? sources
http://thedailyshow.cc.com/video-playli ... 080/lkmdal
start above at 2;20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K88cAq1Lw3o
I will stick with NASA
http://climate.nasa.gov/
The Royal Society,
?It is certain that increased greenhouse gas emissions from the burning of fossil fuels and from land use change lead to a warming of climate, and it is very likely that these green house gases are the dominant cause of the global warming that has been taking place over the last 50 years.?
From
https://royalsociety.org/policy/climate-change/
etc, etc ad infinitum?..
AGW is a fact. To dispute it = saying that science and logic is a conspiracy.
That is silly!
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That is not saying climate change isn't possible or has happened in the past or will happen in the future. What makes scientists so sure it will cause a greenhouse effect that will be long lasting? It's never done it before.
'argument from personal incredulity.'
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Global temps have hit record levels and absolutely no scientific organisation in the world of national or international reputation dispute the fact of global warming. To say that all the data concerning AGW from all the scientific organizations in the world are lies is silly.
Who is behind this vast conspiracy, that makes every scientific organization in the world falsify evidence? Bigfoot? The Masons?*
The AGW deniers are like those that think Elvis is still alive.
* Lets suppose that silliness is true ( that every scientific organization in the world is part of a conspiracy and all their data is lies). UMMM if no evidence is allowed from legitimate scientific organizations, how can you say that AGW is not true?
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It is a proven fact that CO2 causes warming. If you wish to see the evidence simply go to the primary sources ( NOAA, American Meteorological Society, NASA, Royal Academy....any scientific organization in the world of national and\or international reputation)
The effect of other factors has been factored in. For example, climate cycles, sunspots etc and the result is that we have greatly contributed to global warming. The sun is cooling and yet our temps keep increasing and breaking records.
Now, one can claim that the entire scientific community is stupid and\or lying, but that is outrageous.
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The effect of other factors has been factored in. For example, climate cycles, sunspots etc and the result is that we have greatly contributed to global warming. The sun is cooling and yet our temps keep increasing and breaking records.
Now, one can claim that the entire scientific community is stupid and\or lying, but that is outrageous.
Psssst....
It's climate change, not global warming. It was changed after the globe stopped warming and the "scientists" had to trim their sails accordingly.
Thought you might want to know.
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psst
The world is warming and we are causing it. EVERY scientific organization in the world of national and international reputation acknowledges that. At least go to their sites. Or is your intuition correct and EVERY scientific organization in the world wrong?
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Psst
Stop making stuff up.
EVERY scientific organization in the world says that the world continues to warm and actually keeps breaking records.
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The NOAA says that we are getting warmer and breaking records! *
"The combined average temperature across global land and ocean surfaces for August 2014 was record high for the month, at 0.75°C (1.35°F) above the 20th century average of 15.6°C (60.1°F), topping the previous record set in 1998.
The global land surface temperature was 0.99°C (1.78°F) above the 20th century average of 13.8°C (56.9°F), the second highest on record for August, behind 1998.
For the ocean, the August global sea surface temperature was 0.65°C (1.17°F) above the 20th century average of 16.4°C (61.4°F). This record high departure from average not only beats the previous August record set in 2005 by 0.08°C (0.14°F), but also beats the previous all-time record set just two months ago in June 2014 by 0.03°C (0.05°F).
The combined average global land and ocean surface temperature for the June?August period was also record high for this period, at 0.71°C (1.28°F) above the 20th century average of 16.4°C (61.5°F), beating the previous record set in 1998.
The June?August worldwide land surface temperature was 0.91°C (1.64°F) above the 20th century average, the fifth highest on record for this period. The global ocean surface temperature for the same period was 0.63°C (1.13°F) above the 20th century average, the highest on record for June?August. This beats the previous record set in 2009 by 0.04°C (0.07°F).
FROM
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/
Other factors have been ruled out by the entire world's scientific community
http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-a ... arming.htm
* If you think the NOAA is part of a conspiracy, then what about NASA, the American Meteorological Society, the Royal Academy .... and EVERY scientific organization in the world of national and international reputation? Are they part of the conspiracy also?
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Global warming is a fact beyond dispute. EVERY scientific organization in the world of national and/or international reputation confirms that AGW is a fact. Are NASA, the American Meteorological Society, the Royal Academy, Scientific American, National Geographic,... and every legitimate scientific organization in the world part of a conspiracy? Who is in charge of this conspiracy? The Masons? E.T.? Bigfoot?
Even if one thinks that 97% of climate scientists are part of an evil conspiracy, one should at least read the evidence they present. But then again, if one does not believe in science and logic, all the evidence in the world will not make a difference.
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Of course some non recognized sources ( some guys blog for example) may cherry pick information. It is like they are saying that summer does not exist because it was cold on July 15.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... -nonsense/
Shows how the trick is done.
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