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25 Sep 2014, 9:30 pm

Already?

Jerry Falwell started the Moral Majority way back in the 80's, I believe.


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26 Sep 2014, 7:29 pm

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IMHO, quasi-fascism [the idea that big business should be overruling popular rule concerning dictation of government policies] has been here since the 70s, in prototype form described in the infamous "powell memo" [a supreme court member at the time]. it kicked into gear during Reagan's term, and went into overdrive during shrub's term. below, are some defining traits of fascism's elephant that have at least in part snuck under uncle sam's big tent-

* Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
* Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
* Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
* Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
* Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
* Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
* Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
* Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
* Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
* Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

* Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
* Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
* Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
* Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.


So much for the right's claim that fascism is a creature of the left.


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26 Sep 2014, 8:01 pm

/\ No no no; yous guys are the communists and we conservatives are the fascists and nazis.


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26 Sep 2014, 9:09 pm

Why am I not surprised? There are Americans who think just putting ketchup on your hot dog is a major felony. :roll: Seriously, this is what they said after seeing a recent ad for Heinz ketchup on another website. They even said that there are ballparks that will kick you out just for putting ketchup on your hot dog or they've banned the stuff. I don't know if that's true, but if I ever travel to the states I'll think twice about reaching for the ketchup bottle if I buy a hot dog. My parents once bought ridiculously expensive ones on their trip to Vegas last year, I'll have to ask if they put ketchup on them. They're still alive so I guess not. Condiment Nazis.



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26 Sep 2014, 9:39 pm

Raptor wrote:
/\ No no no; yous guys are the communists and we conservatives are the fascists and nazis.


Okay, that's right! :lol: :lol: :lol:


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02 Oct 2014, 12:35 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
/\ No no no; yous guys are the communists and we conservatives are the fascists and nazis.


Okay, that's right! :lol: :lol: :lol:


Hey! Something everyone has in common. We're all part of some big Evil Empire or other. We should all get together and have one big Bogeyman party. :wink: