Page 2 of 3 [ 38 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

thomas81
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 May 2012
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,147
Location: County Down, Northern Ireland

17 Oct 2014, 11:57 am

andrethemoogle wrote:

Also, thomas81, why is it that you literally go after everything even slightly related to Israel?


Anyone who needs to ask that is either pro Israel or uneducated on the matter. In spite of what is advocates argue, Israel isn't a normal country and it represents the longest unchallenged series of abuses of human rights in modern history with the complicity of western governments. Is that enough to start with?

The fact that western countries are only now starting to acknowledge that the Palestinians even exist as a national group is shameful.

My sentiments should be obvious by my avatar.


_________________
Being 'normal' is over rated.

My deviant art profile


ScrewyWabbit
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Oct 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,154

17 Oct 2014, 1:40 pm

thomas81 wrote:
...while holding black ISIS style flags.

the latest antics from that 'oasis of western values' in the middle east.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/10/07 ... can-rally/


What is the point of posting this? There are racists in every culture, every society and every country. The Israelis are no exception but citing the fact that a few Israelis rallied and chanted "N*****s go home" hardly makes Israel or their society or their people any worse than any other. Its irresponsible to highlight a few racist Israelis while having nothing to say about the many racist, murdering Palestinians.

The Palestinians would slaughter the Jews if given the chance. The Sunnis would slaughter the Shiites (and vice versa) if given the chance. White Christians in many parts of the US, the south especially, dislike and even hate anyone who isn't, even to this day. Seems pretty much no one in the Middle East likes the Kurds and would slaughter them too if the opportunity were there. Even in America we have protests against immigrants There are many other example of minority groups being poorly treated in countries that would otherwise be considered an 'oasis of western values' - the Aboriginals in Australia, native Americans in the United States, the Ainu in Japan for starters.



thomas81
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 May 2012
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,147
Location: County Down, Northern Ireland

17 Oct 2014, 2:20 pm

ScrewyWabbit wrote:

What is the point of posting this? There are racists in every culture, every society and every country. The Israelis are no exception but citing the fact that a few Israelis rallied and chanted "N*****s go home" hardly makes Israel or their society or their people any worse than any other.

The point is the narrative of Jewish history. If any country can understand the plight of people forced into exile and flight, surely it should be Israel.

If people in other countries were behaving in an analogous manner, then more of a stink would be made of it. However Israel recieves a carte blanche because of its 'special status'.
ScrewyWabbit wrote:
Its irresponsible to highlight a few racist Israelis while having nothing to say about the many racist, murdering Palestinians.

The Palestinians would slaughter the Jews if given the chance.


This is wholly ignorant of the context in which the Palestinians were dispersed from the their land by the Israelis and made second class citizens in their own land. If a group of religious zealots came to the United States under the pretext they had claims to the USA according to biblical writings, and did exactly the same thing, I am sure that the Palestinians are doing nothing that Americans would not do under the same context or conditions.

In the below scenario would americans want to kill all Israelis? I am damn sure they would, plus some.
Image


_________________
Being 'normal' is over rated.

My deviant art profile


naturalplastic
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Age: 69
Gender: Male
Posts: 33,873
Location: temperate zone

17 Oct 2014, 7:12 pm

They have angry nativist anti-immigrant mobs in the USA, the UK, and every other place. In Norway an anti-Immigrant fanatic even went on a killing spree, and murdered 77 people in the political party he didnt like.

So why do you single out Israel?

Does Israel really get "Cart Blanche"? Or are you in fact holding them to higher standard than other countries?

Other countries have people who DO act "analogously" to those protestors all of the time.



thomas81
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 May 2012
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,147
Location: County Down, Northern Ireland

17 Oct 2014, 10:03 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
They have angry nativist anti-immigrant mobs in the USA, the UK, and every other place. In Norway an anti-Immigrant fanatic even went on a killing spree, and murdered 77 people in the political party he didnt like.

So why do you single out Israel?
.


British and American (descendents of colonialists) have never been victims of pogroms, ethnic cleansing or persecution. You would expect a nation formed by people, on the basis of said persecution to be just a little more empathetic towards others fleeing similar hardships.

There isn't a big racist movement in traditional Ireland, largely due to history we tend to take the log of wood out of our eye before judging migrants.


Wait though i forgot of course, the Israelis aren't really victims. They have more in common with butchers and filchers like Oliver Cromwell, Captain Cook and Colonel Custer than with Anne Frank or Chief Sitting Bull.

There is a reason that Israel has attracted a sectarian themed love from the isolated, yet hugely vocal fanbase here in the basket case loyalist areas of northern ireland, not least among groups notorious for killings where random innocent people would be picked up off of the street for no reason other than their locality and brought back to be slashed open alive with razor knives and left to bleed to death. Thats representative of the sort of shitbird supporters and fans in the west that Israel attracts, good one. Also the descendents of imperial colonists by the way, that have much historically and politically analogus with Israel.

On Anders Breivic: A oppressive and pathologically racist government this summer engaged in the wanton slaughter of more than 2000 Palestinian arabs in Gaza.


_________________
Being 'normal' is over rated.

My deviant art profile


AspieOtaku
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Feb 2012
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,051
Location: San Jose

17 Oct 2014, 11:21 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
They have angry nativist anti-immigrant mobs in the USA, the UK, and every other place. In Norway an anti-Immigrant fanatic even went on a killing spree, and murdered 77 people in the political party he didnt like.

So why do you single out Israel?

Does Israel really get "Cart Blanche"? Or are you in fact holding them to higher standard than other countries?

Other countries have people who DO act "analogously" to those protestors all of the time.
Same kinda racism in Japan too! [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzmgyFQNvvU[/youtube]


_________________
Your Aspie score is 193 of 200
Your neurotypical score is 40 of 200
You are very likely an aspie
No matter where I go I will always be a Gaijin even at home. Like Anime? https://kissanime.to/AnimeList


thomas81
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 May 2012
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,147
Location: County Down, Northern Ireland

18 Oct 2014, 7:17 am

Not really. The Uyoku dantai are about as relevant in Japan as a fart in a hurricane.


_________________
Being 'normal' is over rated.

My deviant art profile


thomas81
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 May 2012
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,147
Location: County Down, Northern Ireland

18 Oct 2014, 7:35 am

meanwhile heavy handed and unwarranted killings like this are still going on, even after the wake of gaza.

http://rt.com/news/196640-israel-idf-ki ... inian-boy/

had this been the other way around, it would be breaking news in every other mainstream western media source.


_________________
Being 'normal' is over rated.

My deviant art profile