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This is just depressive bs you're convincing yourself of.

While I graduated from business school at age 19, I was the youngest in my class. The average age was 28. The oldest student in my class was a 54yo mechanical engineer from China. Undergrads from the local universities tend to be a bit younger, but at the technical school I went to it's a bit more of a mature crowd - many of which already have undergrad degrees and then go there to specialize in something. Regardless, the average age was 28 and that was back in 2002. A lot more adults have returned to school for upgrading since, so the average age in the same academic program may be higher now. 27 is not too late to start on ANYTHING you want to accomplish academically.

Aside:

These are the social assistance rates here in BC, Canada:

http://www.eia.gov.bc.ca/mhr/ia.htm

For a single person it's $610/mo including rent allowance. Any earnings get deducted from their cheque - a disincentive to find work again.. which keeps people on the system to survive. I believe it's any earnings, anyways. They may be allowed to earn $50-100/mo w/o losing benefits, I'm not completely sure - but I know if the threshold is very low/zero before they lose benefits. Keep in mind that we have the 2nd least affordable real estate on the face of the Earth, next to Hong Kong, w/ Sydney rounding out number 3. It's extremely difficult for people to survive on welfare. People s u r v i v e, but that is IT.

These are the rates for those on disability (much higher):

http://www.eia.gov.bc.ca/mhr/da.htm

For a single person it's $906.82cdn/mo including rent allowance. They can also get additional money for special diets, and get coverage for medical/dental and various other expenses.

And, ironically, those on disability are allowed to earn an additional $800/mo from employment income without having their disability cheque cut. Ironic that they're on disability because they cannot work.. but are allowed to work and earn another $800/mo w/o losing benefits. Granted, there are many that fit this category ideally and having both a part time job and disability assistance affords them an acceptable lifestyle.

$2300/month net.. that's a typical working class ~$18/hr full time job here. Keep in mind that minimum wage is $10.50. The average wage, including all of the very high income earners, was $21.43/hr a few years ago. Skilled tradesmen (Journeyman) typically make between $25-35/hr or so depending on the trade. (and plenty more if they do their own contracting.)

I'd rate $2300/month net on social assistance as pretty damned awesome. I've had many full time jobs over the years that have not paid anywhere near that much. Over the last year or so I've earned a fair bit more than that, and recently just switched to a new job where my income took a big hit? not quite sure what my income will be for the next little while as it fluctuates with sales/tipouts (service industry) but it might still be more than that, though, & won't rise significantly until I earn a position on the bar or serving tables vs. working support staff roles. The service industry here pays exceptionally well due to the tipping culture in this part of the world. There are servers and bartenders here that earn more than nurses & doctors who are just starting out in their careers. But yeah, $2300/month for social assistance is HUGE.

Decide to push yourself, Retrogamer, it doesn't matter what happened to you yesterday, what matters is what you are going to do today.

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AlexanderDantes - that was beautiful.. watched it twice & shared on Facebook.

Why should welfare or disability be stigmatized? though I thought SSI was sort of welfare since its money disabled people who have not worked any significant amount of time get, unlike SSDI disability where the person has worked and paid into the system via income tax and became disabled also pays more than SSI. Either way there shouldn't be stigma for any public assistance whether it is welfare or other kinds. Also though individuals who aren't families can get medicaid and food stamps at least in my state, though I imagine its the same in most.

I don't really care about that stuff either, but seems like other people caring about it could make it more difficult for me to find a relationship, though I imagine if I was a male the being on SSI and/or low income seems to have more stigma so perhaps even more difficult but its not like males in a stable position in life are exactly looking for people in my position(not to say it never happens just not all that likely). I am more about personality, intrests, politics(in the sense of following issues and being aware what is going on and what things in the world bother you or what things you see as positive...but I don't like all those political ads, or debates of politicians both making a**ses of themselves) oh and they have to like music...and good music not the current top 20-50 hits on the radio currently or whatever.

lol also there is the distance factor, which adds to the not so great match there...

Maybe you're right but how many of those 28 year olds where there to get their second degrees? How many of them had well fleshed out resumes? I've done virtually nothing.
[quote="goldfish21"]27 is not too late to start on ANYTHING you want to accomplish academically.
Of course it's not to late, I can accomplish anything academically but whether or not I get hired after I get a degree is not a matter of academics. A book I once read said universities will let you do any degree without giving you any indication of whether or not you'll find work in that field. So the question is, does my point about employers not wanting to hire a thirtyager who's done very little still stand? Do people with large resume gaps get hired?

For me I can have a job of no more than 30 hours per week and my earnings will be deducted 50¢ on the dollar, except for the first $156 earnings per fortnight, which will not be deducted. I realize that's a pretty damned awesome system. Next week I have an interview for a 20 hour per week job. If I got the job and assuming they pay the minimum wage of $16.36 per hour, from work and the pension I'd be getting a total of $3,180 per month.

I'm almost tempted to just live on that... but on the other hand, I could do a diploma then a degree while working that 20 hour per week job. That would give me a better resume by the time I graduated and $3,180 per month would be enough to get me through college.

You are welcome, I watch the motivational videos on a regular basis.

Why not?

And I say this coming from the perspective of someone who's health, both mental and physical, were horrendously poor & I'd have qualified for welfare. I refused to go apply for it, though, because I didn't want the stigma I'd give myself. I didn't want to feel like it was game over and I was done before I'd even really started. I got by for a while on an income of about $150/month and the charity of a friend for a roof over my head in a house that was under massive renovations - a total construction site. I intentionally didn't seek to date anyone at this time because I didn't want to burden them with the state I was in and the place I was in in life.

Now, a few years later, things are entirely different for me. I work, I've saved & invested some money, I have a car on the road, I'm mentally sharp & physically fit.. and after some really awesome conversations with my closest friend, I'm more confident than ever about beginning to date someone/others and seeing if I click well enough with anyone for a relationship. And I would not consider dating anyone that has themselves and their life in the mess of a state that I was once in, so no welfare/disability types would do. I see myself spending my life with someone at least as equally driven to do whatever their thing is as I am to do mine in my life. People on welfare aren't typically motivated, ambitious, driven, hard working, achieving & successful people. Now, if they happened to be 1 in a Billion that was on welfare as a means to survive while they pursued some passion with 100% of their time and energy, then that might be a different story.. but the probability of that is slim to none & slim just left town.

That said, I couldn't care less whether someone was once on welfare and has since gotten their life in order and put those days behind them. I'd be a total hypocrite if I said I cared about someone's past in that regard, as even though I never collected it, I know damn well that I qualified. I care much more about their present & future than anyone's past in that regard. Obviously I see no problem with this perspective. You may disagree, but almost no one that's self sufficient wants to take on a financial liability as a life partner. People want to date others that have the money that allows them the time and freedom to do things of mutual interest together, or to follow their passions as someone else mentioned. Granted, some specifically seek someone of lesser financial means because they like being the provider, but even then chances aren't very likely that someone with a provider income is seeking someone on social assistance - and not for money reasons - but rather because there's typically an underlying reason they're incapable of earning their own way through life that isn't compatible with someone's personality, lifestyle, and so on who is gainfully employed & financially stable.

I'm just calling it how I see it. You're free to disagree with me all you like. And if you do, feel free to post a rebuttal as I'm curious as to how you'd debate otherwise.

That should be enough to pay for schooling in cash & have some savings built up by the time you graduate. If you're frugal and spend only what you need to, you could be in a VERY good position in life/career start/finances etc by the time you wrap up your education.

My bankruptcy discharged 13 months ago and I had about $400 to my name. I've been living with family and working my ass off. In 13 months I'm up approx $27K CDN in cash & stocks. Recently spent some money & my income has gone down with my new job, but I'm still saving money and working towards much bigger business & financial goals in My bankruptcy discharged 13 months ago and I had about $400 to my name. If I can manage to that in 13 months, you can manage to achieve your own goals, too.

I really should watch/listen to more. I do read a LOT of motivational quotes, stories, books etc. But I should watch more videos and listen to more audio like that. It's pretty powerful stuff! I have really big goals for myself, and every bit of added positivity helps!

So there should be stigma towards welfare and people on it because you personally would not consider dating someone receiving it? And because you where some how able to manage to get by without it and then gain a more successful life situation? How about you just don't date those people, but no there should not be stigma in society towards it or people on it as there typically are legitimate reasons they need the assistance and as a society there should be resources for people who need financial or other assistance. There shouldn't be stigma just cause you don't wanna date a 'welfare bum' as I am sure you are comfortable using that term towards people on welfare.

I don't care if more well to do people don't want to date someone on welfare or someone with a minimum wage job with low income....but to say there should be stigma against it because of this is really just not cool. It's up to you what qualifications a male would need for you to consider dating them........I imagine my qualifications would look a lot different one of them does not include financial stability. But I can see how financailly stable people prefer to stay that way and date someone who is also in that position...but that also does not mean its hopeless for less successful people to still find relationships and ways of enjoying life.

Also some people don't have the chairity of a friend and what not to help them through the rough times so might not have the luxury of refusing to apply for it....

i've only heard of lower class, middle class, wealthy. where in theres a range for middle class($25,500 to $76,500). so theres lower middle class and higher middle class. 100k a year is upper or near wealthy i think. like senators here make 174k and are generally considered wealthy. in the us anyways. your class and income system might be different'

its rather simple actually you just add more debt to your debt. where as for people like us eventually the credit card companies will cut us off, the us gov is the one who decides when to be cut off so they just raise the limit when they reach it. eventually this will destroy us but politicians think in the here and now not the future as heck they might not even be in office when that happens so make as much as they can now. If I could i'd set it so no foreign aid is sent out until we manage our economy and set a path of clearing our debt. being the worlds red cross/police is what has gotten us into this trouble, time to focus on ourselves

i mean if I owed 22 grand and was always worried about losing my house I wouldn't keep giving my neighbor 500 dollars every month to help him buy food and pay his rent. I doubt Africa/middle east would send us aid money if tomorrow the us collapsed and we needed help.

most people won't consider a tree hugger ambitious. ambition is constantly climbing the promotion ladder til the top then finding a new job field to repeat. at least that is what my Google search of what women consider ambition is.

self ambition and pushing another to grow and follow their ambition are two different things. I for one always try to encourage people to follow their dreams and go for the sky etc. I just personally don't have that drive to constantly be growing. I find a stable spot and enjoy it rather then thinking yeah this spot is great but there might be a better one down the stream. what if there isn't and you come back to find teh spot before taken. every carreer has it's top. must be a said day for those with super ambition.

like the mine craft guy he can't stay on one sucesss, he has to move on to other things, project after project never sticking with one to the finish. or the muscle guys who go too far and become mostly muscle that have a hard time doing normal things where they could have stopped when they were still strong but not too far. I don't get ambition, it seems to living life just to get higher rather then living life just to live life.

even if the guy makes you supper happy and you both love each other? life should be about being happy and enjoying it. work should just be about enabling that. when work becomes the primary focus and happiness/love/enjoying becomes the forgotten past whats the point. i'd rather have a nice girl then 200 million dollars. the money would never make me happy never buy the things i wanted and when I'd die the money would still be around as i'd never be able to spend it all.

you have the right to want who you want, but i feel you're going miss out on nice guys who could improve your life in non money ways, who have just had a tougher life then you.

so say you buy a house pay it off and are set for life not issues no chance of ending up homeless. would you stay refuse a guy who is on that level? or should he have house too. this confuses me. almost seems people would be better living in two houses and just meeting up to have sex and dates. if you live in the same house then it houldn't be needed to have the same income/job status, seems to be a female things, guys haven't and still don't care as much.

yep. you right boo. seen tons of fat jobless women who demand that the guy who wants to date them must have a great job, be fit, and look super handsome. so they want more then they are willing to give, a guy who is similar to them is worthless even to them.

Jjance is a guy I think or at least that is what the profile says.