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21 Oct 2014, 1:34 pm

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Would some moderator please put an end to the people who post responses that fill the page with quotations? It is very annoying. There is no need to dissect each argument point by point. It is really not that difficult to just formulate a concise response. I know I have seen a moderator address this issue before, but the offenders, thinking themselves above the rules and terms of WP, just refuse to comply. What they want to do is drown out the truth because they have no real response to truth and facts other than to try to shout over everyone who disagrees with them. And anyone who disagrees with them who uses the same tactics will be threatened with banishment by the moderators who side with above mentioned members members instead of remaining impartial.

thank you :hail: it would surely be nice if more people were willing to discuss gov. nikki.


I fear this has broken down into such a personal slugfest that the governor has been forgotten. :cry:


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21 Oct 2014, 1:36 pm

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Would some moderator please put an end to the people who post responses that fill the page with quotations? It is very annoying. There is no need to dissect each argument point by point. It is really not that difficult to just formulate a concise response. I know I have seen a moderator address this issue before, but the offenders, thinking themselves above the rules and terms of WP, just refuse to comply. What they want to do is drown out the truth because they have no real response to truth and facts other than to try to shout over everyone who disagrees with them. And anyone who disagrees with them who uses the same tactics will be threatened with banishment by the moderators who side with above mentioned members members instead of remaining impartial.

thank you :hail: it would surely be nice if more people were willing to discuss gov. nikki.


I fear this has broken down into such a personal slugfest that the governor has been forgotten. :cry:

'tis unfortunate that people refuse to get along. I just don't get how so many people can support pols who are working against their interests? is the horatio alger meme ["get rich or die trying"] that strong?



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21 Oct 2014, 1:36 pm

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Would some moderator please put an end to the people who post responses that fill the page with quotations? It is very annoying. There is no need to dissect each argument point by point. It is really not that difficult to just formulate a concise response. I know I have seen a moderator address this issue before, but the offenders, thinking themselves above the rules and terms of WP, just refuse to comply. What they want to do is drown out the truth because they have no real response to truth and facts other than to try to shout over everyone who disagrees with them. And anyone who disagrees with them who uses the same tactics will be threatened with banishment by the moderators who side with above mentioned members members instead of remaining impartial.

thank you :hail: it would surely be nice if more people were willing to discuss gov. nikki.


I fear this has broken down into such a personal slugfest that the governor has been forgotten. :cry:


Yes, if I may butt in a bit, would you mind, dear folks, to direct your attentions to the subject of this thread?



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21 Oct 2014, 1:46 pm

http://www.wistv.com/story/21284716/pol ... ting-rises

! !! I just don't grok those people. :scratch: :shrug: most people would flee from punishment but in that state they seem to ask for more. you can lead a horse to water.....



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21 Oct 2014, 2:22 pm

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Governor Haley's spokesman said the governor is happy with the results. "Gov. Haley has always said that poll numbers go up and down," said Rob Godfrey. "But her focus is on the state's jobs numbers, and she's thrilled that they keep getting better and better."


What part of people being satisfied with their governor don't you understand?
What part of J-O-B-S don't you understand?
You don't live in S. Carolina so why the obsession?


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21 Oct 2014, 2:50 pm

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Governor Haley's spokesman said the governor is happy with the results. "Gov. Haley has always said that poll numbers go up and down," said Rob Godfrey. "But her focus is on the state's jobs numbers, and she's thrilled that they keep getting better and better."

What part of people being satisfied with their governor don't you understand?
What part of J-O-B-S don't you understand?
You don't live in S. Carolina so why the obsession?

Having worked in politics for 30+ years, I can say that it is just that time of the year when sycophants of all political parties smoke too much of their own dope and start taking aim at anything moving. It usually takes until Thanksgiving for political PMS to end. It also peaks around the time of the State of the Union speeches, legislative sessions and summertime conventions.


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21 Oct 2014, 3:39 pm

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Governor Haley's spokesman said the governor is happy with the results. "Gov. Haley has always said that poll numbers go up and down," said Rob Godfrey. "But her focus is on the state's jobs numbers, and she's thrilled that they keep getting better and better."


What part of people being satisfied with their governor don't you understand?
What part of J-O-B-S don't you understand?
You don't live in S. Carolina so why the obsession?


And yet almost half the citizens there approve of the President's job, and hold congress in low regard. Plus tea baggers are much less popular there, now. Doesn't that just irk your conservative sensibilities?


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21 Oct 2014, 3:55 pm

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Governor Haley's spokesman said the governor is happy with the results. "Gov. Haley has always said that poll numbers go up and down," said Rob Godfrey. "But her focus is on the state's jobs numbers, and she's thrilled that they keep getting better and better."


What part of people being satisfied with their governor don't you understand?
What part of J-O-B-S don't you understand?
You don't live in S. Carolina so why the obsession?


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And yet almost half the citizens there approve of the President's job, and hold congress in low regard.

It's still a red state and will probably continue to be for the next several elections. If it doesnt i'll still sleep good.

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Plus tea baggers are much less popular there, now.

No s**t. :roll:
The Tea Party got hijacked by the wrong people early on so therefor it's losing and has been losing it's grassroots members.

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Doesn't that just irk your conservative sensibilities?

If I were half as blindly partisan as you are it probably would irk me but that's not the case.
Besides, I don't live in S. Carolina and never have.

Are you by chance trying to take over for ArantPariah?


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21 Oct 2014, 5:46 pm

As far as I'm concerned, the governor simply represents the will of the people, so if the citizens want that flag to fly, that's the position she should take; I take her comments on it not costing them business as just that, pointing out that the policy isn't costing the state any money, as some opponents of flying like to claim.


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21 Oct 2014, 6:15 pm

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As far as I'm concerned, the governor simply represents the will of the people, so if the citizens want that flag to fly, that's the position she should take; I take her comments on it not costing them business as just that, pointing out that the policy isn't costing the state any money, as some opponents of flying like to claim.


I have to imagine that most black South Carolinians don't like the Confederate flag, and I would think it a mistake to assume that all white southerners would either (considering that many of their ancestors had fought against the Confederacy, and/or espouse different political stances today). So I have to question just how many people in that state her will is representing in regard to that flag.


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21 Oct 2014, 6:39 pm

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I have to imagine that most black South Carolinians don't like the Confederate flag, and I would think it a mistake to assume that all white southerners would either (considering that many of their ancestors had fought against the Confederacy, and/or espouse different political stances today). So I have to question just how many people in that state her will is representing in regard to that flag.


So, your view is that the governor, an Indian American, is flying the Confederate flag against the will of her constituents why?

Here are some very old number about the issue nationally, http://www.gallup.com/poll/2926/america ... -flag.aspx, which show that national support for flying that flag at 46% against and 44% for, but I imagine the numbers are much different in the south.


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21 Oct 2014, 6:46 pm

If Nikki Haley were a democrat drawing criticism from the right they would be labeled racists and misogynists by the left.


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21 Oct 2014, 6:49 pm

Booyakasha wrote:
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auntblabby wrote:
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Would some moderator please put an end to the people who post responses that fill the page with quotations? It is very annoying. There is no need to dissect each argument point by point. It is really not that difficult to just formulate a concise response. I know I have seen a moderator address this issue before, but the offenders, thinking themselves above the rules and terms of WP, just refuse to comply. What they want to do is drown out the truth because they have no real response to truth and facts other than to try to shout over everyone who disagrees with them. And anyone who disagrees with them who uses the same tactics will be threatened with banishment by the moderators who side with above mentioned members members instead of remaining impartial.

thank you :hail: it would surely be nice if more people were willing to discuss gov. nikki.


I fear this has broken down into such a personal slugfest that the governor has been forgotten. :cry:


Yes, if I may butt in a bit, would you mind, dear folks, to direct your attentions to the subject of this thread?


Yes.

Also, people will be allowed to rebut posts point by point, as there is nothing wrong with it and it is an effective debating technique.

Khaoz, if you don't like what the conservatives are saying, try arguing against what they're saying instead of attacking their posting style.


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21 Oct 2014, 7:23 pm

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If Nikki Haley were a democrat drawing criticism from the right they would be labeled racists and misogynists by the left.


The only way Nikki Haley would be a Democrat supporting the Confederate flag would be if she was back in Jim Crow days. And considering the color of her skin, it would be highly unlikely that she could be voted into any South Carolina office back then, let alone vote


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21 Oct 2014, 7:25 pm

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I have to imagine that most black South Carolinians don't like the Confederate flag, and I would think it a mistake to assume that all white southerners would either (considering that many of their ancestors had fought against the Confederacy, and/or espouse different political stances today). So I have to question just how many people in that state her will is representing in regard to that flag.


So, your view is that the governor, an Indian American, is flying the Confederate flag against the will of her constituents why?

Here are some very old number about the issue nationally, http://www.gallup.com/poll/2926/america ... -flag.aspx, which show that national support for flying that flag at 46% against and 44% for, but I imagine the numbers are much different in the south.


I didn't say all her constituents were against the Confederate flag by any means, but the opposition to it almost certainly is more than a small minority.


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21 Oct 2014, 7:32 pm

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If Nikki Haley were a democrat drawing criticism from the right they would be labeled racists and misogynists by the left.


The only way Nikki Haley would be a Democrat supporting the Confederate flag would be if she was back in Jim Crow days. And considering the color of her skin, it would be highly unlikely that she could be voted into any South Carolina office back then, let alone vote

in light of that history, I don't get how she can be so undisturbed about the whole thing. it is like whistling past the graveyard of past [and present] injustices. and that horrible photo of the black fella with the confederate flag, just how is that materially different in philosophy and attitude, from an Israeli holding a Nazi flag? the lack of comprehension and the lack of widespread revulsion is EERIE to me and makes me think I'm in a twilight zone episode or a nightmare.