Are most of girls after 25 married?

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21 Oct 2014, 4:41 pm

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I met my current girlfriend a couple years ago here on WP & she's 32 now & never had kids & no career(she's on SSI, food-stamps & Section 8 housing so we get by)


I think you are lucky :-) Don't miss her )
I think I'm pretty lcuky too


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21 Oct 2014, 5:24 pm

I am 25, single, want a kid and family. But I am not sure if I want a boyfriend. Relationships are complicated.
My best friend is 25, single. She is career oriented and not interested in relationships.
My other friend is 25, in relationship (not married), got a surprise baby last year. She didn't really want a kid but she was not career oriented either. She didn't really know what she wants to do with her life.
Most of my old classmates(25yeal old) I am still in contact with got a boyfriend but no husband or kid.
My cousin is 25, she got married 2 years ago and gave birth to a baby last year. She was family oriented.
My weekend school school-desk friend is... well, I have no idea how old she is but she still looks pretty young. She met her current husband when she was 28, now she has 3 kids with him and is crazy about them.



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21 Oct 2014, 5:37 pm

I live in NYC, the largest city in the USA.

My parents got married in the early 50's. My mother was 19, my father 21.

During the 70's and 80's, I met many, many single people who were in their 20's and 30's.

I think the trend these days, as compared to 30-40 years ago, is for people to marry a bit younger, and have the marriage last a bit longer. Divorces were almost the norm during the 1970s-1980s. I didn't think it was a big deal when my parents separated then divorced in the 1970s.

Instead of getting married, many people used to "live together." I did that as well. It wasn't considered absurd not to be married, even if one was in his/her 40's or 50's.

Especially as it applied to the 1970s, it was "me" generation, where "self-actualization" was more important than commitment. People in my "circle" used to go to orgies and such (this was before AIDS). Experimentation was the way to go. Nobody wanted to get married and have kids.

Nowadays, marriage, commitment and kids are more emphasized than they were back 30-40 years ago.



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21 Oct 2014, 6:19 pm

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I am 25, single, want a kid and family. But I am not sure if I want a boyfriend. Relationships are complicated.
My best friend is 25, single. She is career oriented and not interested in relationships.
My other friend is 25, in relationship (not married), got a surprise baby last year. She didn't really want a kid but she was not career oriented either. She didn't really know what she wants to do with her life.
Most of my old classmates(25yeal old) I am still in contact with got a boyfriend but no husband or kid.
My cousin is 25, she got married 2 years ago and gave birth to a baby last year. She was family oriented.
My weekend school school-desk friend is... well, I have no idea how old she is but she still looks pretty young. She met her current husband when she was 28, now she has 3 kids with him and is crazy about them.


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21 Oct 2014, 7:51 pm

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I am in the close suburbs of big city - and most of girls are married before 25 (most of men - before 30). But you are right - in small towns people are married even earlier, sometimes in 17-18.


I live in the suburbs of Vancouver, BC, where we have the 2nd least affordable real estate in the World - next to Hong Kong - w/ real property prices vs. local incomes. It's been my experience anyways, that living in a big city that's also VERY expensive means that people delay relationships, marriage, families etc a LOT longer. So, if you want to blend into the social fabric of a city as a single late 20 something or 30 something+? consider relocating to somewhere extremely expensive & you'll find yourself part of the norm instead of an outlier. It also doesn't hurt any that we have huge Indian & Chinese populations where the eldest child traditionally stays at home with mom and dad for practically ever.. making it even more normal for adult children to live at home. Anyways, yeah, big expensive diverse city = no problems whatsoever with being single at 30.


My Moscow will beat you in non-affordability of real estates :-) Average salary is near 20k $ per year before taxes, average apartments with two rooms (not main room and 2 bedrooms, instead two at all) are 200k $. Mortgage for 30-40% yearly.

But lots of people marry and live with parents on one of them. Or parents, grandparents and so on take their money together and buy apartments for their son/daughter.


Here, the average income is approximately $45K - but that includes all the upper end earners as well. Average working class income is lower than that. Average home prices, last I recall, are approximately $670K. In some neighbourhoods the average prices are well in excess of $1M - even in "regular" neighbourhoods on the East side of the city, not fancy upper class areas. There are many $10-30-some Million homes around town. But interest rates are more like 3-4%, not 30-40. Anyways, Vancouver was rated as 2nd least affordable real estate in the entire world next to Hong Kong with Sydney Australia rounding out the top 3.

Same thing happens here.. families live together or pool their money or buy apartments for the younger generation etc.


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21 Oct 2014, 8:27 pm

I've got 14 female friends in my wide circle who are over 25, single, have no kids, and are not gay. None of them have even been divorced (the one friend I have who has been divorced has a partner again now). That's compared with 21 female friends who don't fit that description.

Now, I'm an unmarried, childless female myself so that may be why I have a high ratio of such friends, but nevertheless, they exist in this part of the world!



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22 Oct 2014, 12:54 am

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I've got 14 female friends in my wide circle who are over 25, single, have no kids, and are not gay. None of them have even been divorced (the one friend I have who has been divorced has a partner again now). That's compared with 21 female friends who don't fit that description.

Now, I'm an unmarried, childless female myself so that may be why I have a high ratio of such friends, but nevertheless, they exist in this part of the world!


In what country do you live? I need to move there :-)



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22 Oct 2014, 1:02 am

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Here, the average income is approximately $45K - but that includes all the upper end earners as well. Average working class income is lower than that. Average home prices, last I recall, are approximately $670K. In some neighbourhoods the average prices are well in excess of $1M - even in "regular" neighbourhoods on the East side of the city, not fancy upper class areas. There are many $10-30-some Million homes around town. But interest rates are more like 3-4%, not 30-40. Anyways, Vancouver was rated as 2nd least affordable real estate in the entire world next to Hong Kong with Sydney Australia rounding out the top 3.

Same thing happens here.. families live together or pool their money or buy apartments for the younger generation etc.


Wow, that's terrible. I was in Florida not long ago and there are nice houses for 100-150k USD in just 20 minutes driving to ocean or nearest big city. That was perfect, I wish once I'll find a way to move there. I wish I know who could afford those 30-million houses, even boss of my IT department who is rather rich here can't buy such. Looking on such things I understand why some people become communists...

And in Moscow yes - just like Vancouver, you can find lots of houses or apartments for dozens of million dollars. There's a joke that by selling apartments in the Moscow suburbs you could buy a castle in Czech Republic and this is not far from truth :-)



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22 Oct 2014, 1:08 am

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I've got 14 female friends in my wide circle who are over 25, single, have no kids, and are not gay. None of them have even been divorced (the one friend I have who has been divorced has a partner again now). That's compared with 21 female friends who don't fit that description.

Now, I'm an unmarried, childless female myself so that may be why I have a high ratio of such friends, but nevertheless, they exist in this part of the world!


In what country do you live? I need to move there :-)

Oh I forgot I removed that from my profile - Australia :)

They are all good eggs too, I'd date most of them.


Edit: I'm not sure how many of them fit the whole description of what you are looking for though.



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22 Oct 2014, 1:12 am

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I am 25, single, want a kid and family. But I am not sure if I want a boyfriend. Relationships are complicated.
My best friend is 25, single. She is career oriented and not interested in relationships.
My other friend is 25, in relationship (not married), got a surprise baby last year. She didn't really want a kid but she was not career oriented either. She didn't really know what she wants to do with her life.
Most of my old classmates(25yeal old) I am still in contact with got a boyfriend but no husband or kid.
My cousin is 25, she got married 2 years ago and gave birth to a baby last year. She was family oriented.
My weekend school school-desk friend is... well, I have no idea how old she is but she still looks pretty young. She met her current husband when she was 28, now she has 3 kids with him and is crazy about them.


Oh, thanks for such a detailed statistics. I see that I could be mistaken considering most of girls are married in this age. However, I see most of them are in the strong relations with somebody and nowadays it's almost like marriage in the past for them.

So while I want to have relations too I either should find one of those rare who are completely free or "recapture" one from her boyfriend :-)



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22 Oct 2014, 1:15 am

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Here, the average income is approximately $45K - but that includes all the upper end earners as well. Average working class income is lower than that. Average home prices, last I recall, are approximately $670K. In some neighbourhoods the average prices are well in excess of $1M - even in "regular" neighbourhoods on the East side of the city, not fancy upper class areas. There are many $10-30-some Million homes around town. But interest rates are more like 3-4%, not 30-40. Anyways, Vancouver was rated as 2nd least affordable real estate in the entire world next to Hong Kong with Sydney Australia rounding out the top 3.

Same thing happens here.. families live together or pool their money or buy apartments for the younger generation etc.


Wow, that's terrible. I was in Florida not long ago and there are nice houses for 100-150k USD in just 20 minutes driving to ocean or nearest big city. That was perfect, I wish once I'll find a way to move there. I wish I know who could afford those 30-million houses, even boss of my IT department who is rather rich here can't buy such. Looking on such things I understand why some people become communists...

And in Moscow yes - just like Vancouver, you can find lots of houses or apartments for dozens of million dollars. There's a joke that by selling apartments in the Moscow suburbs you could buy a castle in Czech Republic and this is not far from truth :-)


Ha!

Oh, and the $670k average includes the suburbs. IN the city the average price of a detached family home is now just over $1M, if I recall correctly.

Anyways, the castle comment is funny because there was a recent news story about a castle for sale for less than the price of a house in Vancouver? and someone from Vancouver bought it as an investment and is turning it into apartments.

Here's the article: "Vancouverite buys heritage castle for less than an East Vancouver bungalow" http://www.theprovince.com/Vancouverite ... ederated=1


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22 Oct 2014, 1:45 am

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Ha!

Oh, and the $670k average includes the suburbs. IN the city the average price of a detached family home is now just over $1M, if I recall correctly.

Anyways, the castle comment is funny because there was a recent news story about a castle for sale for less than the price of a house in Vancouver? and someone from Vancouver bought it as an investment and is turning it into apartments.

Here's the article: "Vancouverite buys heritage castle for less than an East Vancouver bungalow" http://www.theprovince.com/Vancouverite ... ederated=1


I'll read now :-) Problem with castles is that they are mainly not so good as investment. You have to pay really great taxes in some regions and at the same time it's very expensive to maintain it and secure as historical heritage object.

But it's a bit offtopic. I'm sure most of girls doesn't need guy with castle :-) I hope ))

Anyway, this situation may give me some advantage in big cities - living together with their families may cause girls to evade marriage for more time. I wish it's so - I'm 27 now and I can't date college girls who are 20, it would be odd.



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22 Oct 2014, 1:55 am

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I've got 14 female friends in my wide circle who are over 25, single, have no kids, and are not gay. None of them have even been divorced (the one friend I have who has been divorced has a partner again now). That's compared with 21 female friends who don't fit that description.

Now, I'm an unmarried, childless female myself so that may be why I have a high ratio of such friends, but nevertheless, they exist in this part of the world!


In what country do you live? I need to move there :-)

Oh I forgot I removed that from my profile - Australia :)

They are all good eggs too, I'd date most of them.


Edit: I'm not sure how many of them fit the whole description of what you are looking for though.


Nice country! I know one guy from Darwin - he's minig truck driver and happy of it.

My requirements are not so big. If by points these are:
1. 25-28 age (I'm 27)
2. single
3. doesn't want kids
4. either has same interests in history and social sience or at least appreciates them.
I don't search for fashion model or daughter of billionaire.

From my side I'd be ready to appreciate her personality, hobbies and interests (even wierd), and to support her despite any troubles in life. Now my salary is not so big but I'm starting new career path following my talents so I'm sure I'll be able to have nice business (at least I'll try :D ).



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22 Oct 2014, 3:31 am

Plenty of single women over 25 here in the Netherlands. Plenty. Especially the more educated ones



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22 Oct 2014, 3:46 am

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Plenty of single women over 25 here in the Netherlands. Plenty. Especially the more educated ones


I think most of them are of those who almost live in the office trying to reach CEO chairs and thus just don't interested in relaions if they doesn't help their career. Or I am wrong?