Are most of girls after 25 married?
24 Oct 2014, 2:07 am
sly279 wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
I am nearly 23, pursuing my second degree and single. And no, that's not because I want to be single.
i suspect you limit yourself to guys who have degrees as well?
nothing wrong with it but it will decrease the number of possible mates.
No, I would also date guys with a professional or vocational education. No people that have only finished high school though, I need to be on the same intellectual level with someone.
there have been and are people who never went to college who are probably just as smart. I have also met alot of stupid people at my college who got degrees. a college degree doesn't make people smart just as not having one doesn't make people stupid.
I have a degree yet don't' work in the field. all a degree shows is you went to school and were able to retain information long enough to pass tests. a lot of people will then forget all the information they learned the term before. they end up with a degree but don't remember most of what they learned. i had teachers complain about those types often.
if i remember right bill gates never went to college and hes super smart and rich. my sister never went to college and shes smart and has some of her poetry published. try to remember that a degree is just a title not proof of intelligence.
I think a better way of judging intellectual level is to find out what they know about shared interests. you may find someone with only high school that knows a butt load about science and theories. just food for thought. i could have likely got another degree too, i'm good at tests.
There are probably some people that never went to college who are just a smart and if they can prove or show that to me then fine. On the whole though, I have experienced a huge intellectual dismatch with individuals with an intermediate vocational education. I find them to be worse thinkers with less of an interest in the world around them.
24 Oct 2014, 2:27 am
AngelRho wrote:
Depends on the degree, I think. Masters and doctorates aren't really like that. The old-school way of looking at masters degrees is they demonstrate actual mastery in the field of study. For me, it was all about being independently creative. There's not really a test that can measure that. My profs were more concerned with whether I could form an original independent thought. My oral exam was perhaps the highlight of my educational career.
Doctorate degrees are all about demonstrating that you can make a significant contribution to your field of study. The thing that disturbs me is how easy it is to do bull$#!+ dissertations. My undergrad clarinet prof. did her dissertation on the collected clarinet works of Arthur Frackenpohl (famous for his work with the Canadian Brass, all around great guy, proud to have personally gotten to know him). Everyone who has ever met Art loves him. Cataloging a given composer's work by instrument is a good thing to do. But THIS is what passes for scholarship? My clarinet teacher was highly respected by her teachers at her undergrad alma mater, and I happen to know of one or two of those profs who were disappointed at her choice of dissertation "work." But, then again, given who her dissertation adviser was, it shouldn't be any big surprise...
Doctorate degrees are all about demonstrating that you can make a significant contribution to your field of study. The thing that disturbs me is how easy it is to do bull$#!+ dissertations. My undergrad clarinet prof. did her dissertation on the collected clarinet works of Arthur Frackenpohl (famous for his work with the Canadian Brass, all around great guy, proud to have personally gotten to know him). Everyone who has ever met Art loves him. Cataloging a given composer's work by instrument is a good thing to do. But THIS is what passes for scholarship? My clarinet teacher was highly respected by her teachers at her undergrad alma mater, and I happen to know of one or two of those profs who were disappointed at her choice of dissertation "work." But, then again, given who her dissertation adviser was, it shouldn't be any big surprise...
my point wasn't that anyone who has a degree isn't intelligent but that just having one doesn't mean they are intelligent.
but hey what do I know i'm just a idiot with a AAS degree. since i never got a graduate degree and such.
24 Oct 2014, 2:32 am
Cafeaulait wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
I am nearly 23, pursuing my second degree and single. And no, that's not because I want to be single.
i suspect you limit yourself to guys who have degrees as well?
nothing wrong with it but it will decrease the number of possible mates.
No, I would also date guys with a professional or vocational education. No people that have only finished high school though, I need to be on the same intellectual level with someone.
there have been and are people who never went to college who are probably just as smart. I have also met alot of stupid people at my college who got degrees. a college degree doesn't make people smart just as not having one doesn't make people stupid.
I have a degree yet don't' work in the field. all a degree shows is you went to school and were able to retain information long enough to pass tests. a lot of people will then forget all the information they learned the term before. they end up with a degree but don't remember most of what they learned. i had teachers complain about those types often.
if i remember right bill gates never went to college and hes super smart and rich. my sister never went to college and shes smart and has some of her poetry published. try to remember that a degree is just a title not proof of intelligence.
I think a better way of judging intellectual level is to find out what they know about shared interests. you may find someone with only high school that knows a butt load about science and theories. just food for thought. i could have likely got another degree too, i'm good at tests.
There are probably some people that never went to college who are just a smart and if they can prove or show that to me then fine. On the whole though, I have experienced a huge intellectual dismatch with individuals with an intermediate vocational education. I find them to be worse thinkers with less of an interest in the world around them.
i'm confused thought you said you'd date someone who did vocational education but then say you've found them dis matched o.O
so is it about knowng tons of book facts and numbers? really all i missed out on by not following the 4 year program to a teaching degree, just a s**t ton more classes on facts, numbers and writing. I know a bunch about history though. which is what i would have wanted to teach. knew a guy who is getting a bunch of degrees, he thinks hes smarter and better then most everyone.
meh guess i just have to try hooking up with the dumb girls who don't like learning anything. though they tend to only want sports guys. hate to same dumb but um well really there's not much left of those types here.
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24 Oct 2014, 5:36 am
sly: out of curiosity, why didn't you finish your teaching degree?
People whine and complain as the day is long how teachers are underpaid, but the reality is the teaching profession is a racket. I was making just over $30k gross at my second public school job. That was back when Mississippi suddenly decided legislatively they weren't going to pay their teachers anymore. The so-called "adequate education program" hasn't been fully funded since, which is a joke when you look at just how much money is currently spent (and wasted) on schools and teachers. Those who actually dare to teach in our public schools haven't had a yearly pay raise since, and that guaranteed pay raise was one of the big selling points of getting into the profession.
I got tired of all the bull$#!+ from administrators who were too busy nitpicking young, white teachers and couldn't keep their fingers out of my classroom long enough for me to actually do anything with the kids. Tried teaching in private schools for two years, and the egos and attitudes are even worse there. Their music/art teachers have such a high turnaround you can't accomplish anything there, although if you teach social science, science, language arts, or math, you're pretty much set for life.
Seriously, a starting salary of $30k even in this economy doesn't suck, and I'm appalled by how teachers act when it comes to their pay. If it's all about the money (most teachers genuinely love it and stay on in spite of how government treats them), then put in 5-10 GOOD years and apply your experience to something related to your subject. You really can do a lot worse than a teaching job.
24 Oct 2014, 12:51 pm
AngelRho wrote:
sly: out of curiosity, why didn't you finish your teaching degree?
People whine and complain as the day is long how teachers are underpaid, but the reality is the teaching profession is a racket. I was making just over $30k gross at my second public school job. That was back when Mississippi suddenly decided legislatively they weren't going to pay their teachers anymore. The so-called "adequate education program" hasn't been fully funded since, which is a joke when you look at just how much money is currently spent (and wasted) on schools and teachers. Those who actually dare to teach in our public schools haven't had a yearly pay raise since, and that guaranteed pay raise was one of the big selling points of getting into the profession.
I got tired of all the bull$#!+ from administrators who were too busy nitpicking young, white teachers and couldn't keep their fingers out of my classroom long enough for me to actually do anything with the kids. Tried teaching in private schools for two years, and the egos and attitudes are even worse there. Their music/art teachers have such a high turnaround you can't accomplish anything there, although if you teach social science, science, language arts, or math, you're pretty much set for life.
Seriously, a starting salary of $30k even in this economy doesn't suck, and I'm appalled by how teachers act when it comes to their pay. If it's all about the money (most teachers genuinely love it and stay on in spite of how government treats them), then put in 5-10 GOOD years and apply your experience to something related to your subject. You really can do a lot worse than a teaching job.
People whine and complain as the day is long how teachers are underpaid, but the reality is the teaching profession is a racket. I was making just over $30k gross at my second public school job. That was back when Mississippi suddenly decided legislatively they weren't going to pay their teachers anymore. The so-called "adequate education program" hasn't been fully funded since, which is a joke when you look at just how much money is currently spent (and wasted) on schools and teachers. Those who actually dare to teach in our public schools haven't had a yearly pay raise since, and that guaranteed pay raise was one of the big selling points of getting into the profession.
I got tired of all the bull$#!+ from administrators who were too busy nitpicking young, white teachers and couldn't keep their fingers out of my classroom long enough for me to actually do anything with the kids. Tried teaching in private schools for two years, and the egos and attitudes are even worse there. Their music/art teachers have such a high turnaround you can't accomplish anything there, although if you teach social science, science, language arts, or math, you're pretty much set for life.
Seriously, a starting salary of $30k even in this economy doesn't suck, and I'm appalled by how teachers act when it comes to their pay. If it's all about the money (most teachers genuinely love it and stay on in spite of how government treats them), then put in 5-10 GOOD years and apply your experience to something related to your subject. You really can do a lot worse than a teaching job.
bunch of reasons. 1. my state is firing teachers left and right due to budget cuts, mean while building new schools. its the same store with police. people here will fund building new buildings but not to pay for the people to work in them. then add that theres a lot of people getting teaching degrees, we have two big teaching colleges here.
2. I don't know that i'd bee a good teacher. I have passion for history yes, but i'm probably far too submissive to control a bunch of misbehaving noisy kids.
3. I didn't want to have to do 3 more years of writing,math,science etc, then end up teaching one of those. when i really just wanted to teach history. plus here you end up subbing for years. i remember in school our pe teacher would be a math teacher so he taught math in pe for my sister. its like making a doctor be a mechanic. why would you make someone who knows a bunch about science and loves it teach math for example. teachers without passion for what they teach have a harder time getting kids to learn. I'd been a terrible math teacher i hate it. but my highschool math teacher loved it. he would end up covered in chalk after each day lol.
the whole system is so underfunded and messed up and cares way more about test results then if kids actually learn. theres a bunch of great teachers mind you but they are forced to follow the system.
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