Online dating I only attract low value women.

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They can't spell or hold a conversation, they seem to be interested in me because no one else is interested in them. I try to be nice to them but they have no personality, no ambition, nothing to add to the conversation. They have blank profiles and nothing to say for themselves. It's painful. Meanwhile girls with personality and intelligence all ignore me even though I message them by the dozen.

They're not even smart enough to ask me about anything in my profile which is detailed and well written. I even had some people on the site review it for me and they said it's good. Yet the only messages I get read like they were written by illiterates.

What are you majoring in? What's your profession? Maybe they aren't seeing you as intelligent enough to warrant a response.

a piece of advice:
don't be nice to someone just because you want to cushion them
try to focus on other things rather than spelling
I presume you are talking about a dating website of some sort?
Never been on one but isn't there a lot of competition there? When seeing so many options it might make a girl want to go for the best- best looking, best educated, best lover. Even though it's just online conversation.
Those girls you are sending messages to might get a lot of messages from others too.

so... i don't know how to help you

be strong

: D

I hate the fact that the more a woman is like me, the greater the chance she will not be interested. It's like some some sort of sick twisted game where up is down and down is up.

Like you, I ended up trying to talk to low-hanging women, typically dealing with mental illness issues, which is fine as I would value their company just as much... These women ended up teaching me that you absorb cruelty like a sponge. They learn to mimic the hateful environment they were forged in... and then they direct all of that hatred towards me.

Being around this sort of person is extremely exhausting, though it's kind of rough because I know it's not entirely her fault (abusive parents).

But yes, low-hanging fruit is low-hanging for a reason.

Klowglas, I've been through that so many times. After a while it just got to the point where I realized that money and my hobbies were more important than any type of socialization.

If someone isn't your type, then don't spend time expecting them to become the right type. Try different approaches. Try different places. Some people are terrible at talking online or are just browsing, but it's so mainstream that everyone does it, anyway.

Both sexes have that issue, though, whether it's deliberately picking people they think are beneath them and owe them gratitude for the attention or complaining about the quality of people who are interested. Oftentimes, there's nothing wrong with the quality of the people beyond not being good at conversation, not having good jobs, etc. They may not be criminal, rude, or anti-intellectual, but normal people who aren't good at something... same as the people doing the complaining who generally aren't beautiful, rich, socially skilled, intelligent, fascinating, fashionable, and of impeccable character.

I'm surprised how much this is talked about online, really, and how little people flinch when others talk about dating or sleeping with someone beneath them. I can't imagine anyone not getting lynched for entering a low-income home, eating their food, and complaining about how bad it is to visit poor people or telling their friend that, as a low-worth individual, they should be grateful to have their superior company. Other situations where people partake of something that belongs to others, but consider beneath them and complain about it.

The attitude is one I'm very cautious of and try to screen for. I don't want anyone who would describe me as "low-quality" or "low-hanging", regardless of whether or not I'm Angelina Jolie. I wouldn't call any man I'm interested in who has Asperger's, is geeky, or is working a low-pay job those words if they have other strengths and a reasonably good character, and I expect the same respect. If I'm such a disappointing person to come away from a dating website with, perhaps they should find someone else.

I'm not sure what "nice" is. Does this mean you ask them about themselves? Maybe why they don't put a lot in their profiles or about things that you would want asked about you?

Or does that mean you say "Hi, did you have a good day?".

Personally, I don't like "nice". It's is bland and aggravating and it's pretty much a default when you don't really want to invest anything or risk anything or be the first one to stretch out past the middle. I like being challenged. One of the best conversations I had on a dating site was when someone messaged me and said they found me fascinating and were really interested until I dropped an F-bomb at the end of the profile.

...so I wrote them back and challenged them on that line of thinking.

Misspellings and typos irritate me too, but if you never compromise a little bit in the initial stages you will find yourself forever alone. People have different priorities in life and when you are talking relationships there are so many other things I would rather my SO prioritize than grammar, spelling and punctuation to be perfectly honest.

Maybe there is something that women are seeing [or not seeing] in your profile that is turning off the ones who put more of themselves out there. If you are consulting people who already know you, those people may not be able to give you an accurate assessment.

It seems kind of hypocritical and hurtful to label someone "low value". Do you even think of women who might read this and feel hurt? This is the reason this place is such a cesspool. Nobody seems to give a s**t about how their words affect people.

I understand wanting someone that's intellectually stimulating. The problem is a lot of NT's don't value that as much. People don't always want someone identical to them. They might consider you "low value" because they want something else.

"I put effort into my profile explaining my career and my hobbies, nobody ever asks about this. Might as well not have bothered right? Did they even read it? They certainly don't care if they did. "

"I'm not expecting to date a top scientist or the next great composer, but someone who cares enough about me to read my profile and maybe ask me a question based on it. "



If they don't know you, why should they care?

Why do they message me if they don't care? To waste my time?

I guess so.

I read every woman's profile and if I'm interested I (get ready, are you sitting down for this?) ASK THEM QUESTIONS BASED ON WHAT THEY WROTE. Because THAT'S THE WAY ONLINE DATING WORKS. Its basic courtesy and a pretty f*****g simple thing to do. People who can't be bothered, or are too stupid, are LOW VALUE in internet dating terms. If you take off your demonisation hat for a second, it's pretty simple to understand, really.

It's like a slap in the face that I put literally hours of effort into writing a profile, choosing photos, uploading them, getting it critiqued by dispassionate observers, and the only people who message me can't take two minutes to pick out just one thing I wrote and ask me about it? Girls complain about guys who message straight away with naked pictures or canned responses whatever, and I'm not allowed to complain when I get the exact same lazy attitude? Double standard anyone?

Girls are allowed to judge me all day long, and when I judge them I'm the next Hitler?

someone is angry,


maybe they have been so much on dating sites that they are bored of it?
It's definitely a turn off when all you get in response form someone are one liners, I know, but that isn't related to who you attract.
or is it?

and mister if you knew how online dating worked you would have gotten the girl/s of your dreams already :p
well maybe you learned something? like don't put so much effort in a online profile from the start? test the waters?

Wait... you get messages? Must be nice

And then there's the hours of effort I put into writing thoughtful messages to people who never respond. Should I just message everyone with "hi" in the future?

No, because they still won't respond.

I guess I should just admit I will never be loved by someone who cares about my hobbies or interests, probably never even meet anyone who cares about my hobbies and interests. I actually see profiles written by women who claim to care about the same things, and they ignore me the same as everyone else. I guess I am scum. I guess I should just be happy that I got a couple of lazy messages from women I don't really find very attractive. I guess that's all I deserve in life and nothing more.