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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:09 am    Post subject: Black and white thinking and other examples of Asperger's Reply with quote

I am having a black and white moment. I am finding that the creation of this wonderful new forum-within-a-forum is stirring up upset feelings. I don't like a number of things, starting with the name and description of the forum, plus at least one member refuses to come here, and then there're the people upset by the deletion of the men's forum (wtf?)

So in my black/white thinking, I will just reside in this forum and not make any posts or read any other forums outside of our cozy little discussion area. Stupid, yeah? At least I'm starting to see why I do things. Maybe tomorrow I'll venture out, but today at least my brain is telling me it's only safe in here.

Any other examples of black and white thinking or other AS things come to mind for the rest of you?
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:15 am    Post subject: Re: Black and white thinking and other examples of Asperger' Reply with quote

aylissa wrote:
I am having a black and white moment. I am finding that the creation of this wonderful new forum-within-a-forum is stirring up upset feelings. I don't like a number of things, starting with the name and description of the forum, plus at least one member refuses to come here, and then there're the people upset by the deletion of the men's forum (wtf?)

So in my black/white thinking, I will just reside in this forum and not make any posts or read any other forums outside of our cozy little discussion area. Stupid, yeah? At least I'm starting to see why I do things. Maybe tomorrow I'll venture out, but today at least my brain is telling me it's only safe in here.

Any other examples of black and white thinking or other AS things come to mind for the rest of you?


Change scares some.

I didn't like the term "In-depth"...reminds me when your partner says "we need to talk about our relationship"...

but I got over it. I don't even see the title now, I just click in and if nothing grabs me...off I go.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG
I think that may be an aspie thing:
Hearing "We need to talk..." or "Can we sit down..." puts me in utter panic mode.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dunno if it's black and white thinking so much as perfectionism. 'near enough is good enough' is a useful type of NT thinking. i've had to adopt it.

i don't see any problem. most forum names or titles are less than perfect, it's just where you go to post and you forget about the title. it's snobbery on the part of those who don't want to come here. let them be snobs, who cares?

it's just another internet forum, i've seen a lot of changes to categories on other forums too. as the membership expands, people have different requirements.


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scientifically speaking.. We are growing mold in here. You know - don't you? (M)old.

I think that I stole this idea from an artwork college.

But we are all in this place, talking mold so hail the church of slime.

There's slime falling off the ceiling and is that what we are doing?
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Postperson wrote:
let them be snobs, who cares?

it's just another internet forum, i've seen a lot of changes to categories on other forums too. as the membership expands, people have different requirements.


Of course you're right, and I know that. But knowing that doesn't help much. I have theory of mind issues that I can't even begin to go into because I'll start feeling like a sociopath.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aylissa wrote:
OMG
I think that may be an aspie thing:
Hearing "We need to talk..." or "Can we sit down..." puts me in utter panic mode.


Yep, I start flowcharting in my mind all the possible things that will be discussed....frigging scary!
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

earthdweller wrote:
Scientifically speaking.. We are growing mold in here. You know - don't you? (M)old.

I think that I stole this idea from an artwork college.

But we are all in this place, talking mold so hail the church of slime.

There's slime falling off the ceiling and is that what we are doing?



this is very apt too

god, we ARE deep!
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have troubles seeing the gray areas. They have to be pointed out to me.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not nearly as black and white as I used to be.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:24 am    Post subject: Re: Black and white thinking and other examples of Asperger' Reply with quote

aylissa wrote:
I am having a black and white moment. I am finding that the creation of this wonderful new forum-within-a-forum is stirring up upset feelings. I don't like a number of things, starting with the name and description of the forum, plus at least one member refuses to come here, and then there're the people upset by the deletion of the men's forum (wtf?)

So in my black/white thinking, I will just reside in this forum and not make any posts or read any other forums outside of our cozy little discussion area. Stupid, yeah? At least I'm starting to see why I do things. Maybe tomorrow I'll venture out, but today at least my brain is telling me it's only safe in here.

Any other examples of black and white thinking or other AS things come to mind for the rest of you?


There was a contest in my school, to make a poster.
The deadline was 1 day ago. Today the winners would be announced.

It turned out the deadline changed, I was the only one who finished on time,
and handed everything. The winners were ones who finished 1 day later...

I got upset because of this, this was a contest, there was a deadline.
What about responsability? What about fairness?

People told me to forget about it, that "life sucks", and that "deadlines change
in real life (jobs)"
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

likedcalico wrote:
I have troubles seeing the gray areas. They have to be pointed out to me.


There are gray areas?
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To reiterate: I cannot choose between black and white. I see both and they both mean nothing to me in the same way that they both mean everything to me.

Too much thought or not enough thought....
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danielismyname wrote:
To reiterate: I cannot choose between black and white. I see both and they both mean nothing to me in the same way that they both mean everything to me.

Too much thought or not enough thought....


The answer is yes....and no. Razz

There is no real "correct" answer. If one of the options feels "right," just go with it. If not, take some more time. This is a forum, there's no real rush.

As for outside of this.... I got nothing.


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:56 am    Post subject: Re: Black and white thinking and other examples of Asperger' Reply with quote

computerlove wrote:


There was a contest in my school, to make a poster.
The deadline was 1 day ago. Today the winners would be announced.

It turned out the deadline changed, I was the only one who finished on time,
and handed everything. The winners were ones who finished 1 day later...

I got upset because of this, this was a contest, there was a deadline.
What about responsability? What about fairness?

People told me to forget about it, that "life sucks", and that "deadlines change
in real life (jobs)"


They had a costume contest at work for Halloween, they would judge on funniest, and scariest
so I spent hours and hours making a huge wearable plastic package of spinach with clear shower curtains and painting the logo and package UPC code etc BACKWARDS so when I put it on it was all smooth on the outside, just like the fresh spinich package ( it was POPEYES fresh spinach and it was PERFECT!

I made 'honorable mention' simply because they decided they didn't want to use the criteria and didn't have the CATAGORIES they advertized for. They just gave it for what the panel thought was the best. I was so bummed because my costume made no sense without 'funniest and most scary ( they had recalled fresh spinach for botulism just weeks earlier)

and somehow it was implied that _I_ was over reacting because 'this was just for fun!"

I am glad I am not NT, but if I WERE NT, this stuff would not bother me

Merle
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