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| Do yu find the cervical smear test too painful? |
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rosered
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G,
If you prefer you can request to see a women rather than a male dr/nurse.
It would seem strange to me to have a man poking around my bits and it not be sexual heh heh  |
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Apatura
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Age: 35
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It depends on the skill of the dr doing it. I've had painless ones and agonizing ones. My midwives' practice recently closed so I've got nowhere to go that I feel safe  . I'm about 4 months overdue for one.
It is such an important test though, that you should just force yourself . |
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cowlypso
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Joined: May 06, 2007
Posts: 302
Location: The Black Hole Commonly Known As Grad School
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I try every year. Some of the times it's been okay. But some of the times (like last time) they hit some spot that is really sensitive and just hurts horribly. Then the doctor just stops. I end up getting it run at least every other year, though. I worry that I'll never be able to have sex or children because of it. But then again, I'm not sure I want kids and I'm nowhere near having a man in my life, so I just ignore those thoughts.
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Miranda
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Joined: May 15, 2007
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Location: United States
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Why couldn't you have sex without doing a pap? I've had sex but don't see a gynocologist. Sex for me isn't painful, but at the same time, anything else down there is. I can't wear tampons because they hurt so bad, I feel like crying when I put them in. I think sex isn't painful at all once you're properly turned on, in a position you like, and if you have a nice partner. |
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Celticess
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Joined: May 16, 2007
Posts: 118
Location: British Columbia, Canada
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Tampons I hate too but I use them if I have to because I'm going swimming or severe flow. I was using the pill to lower my heavy flow but then I've had some hair loss/shedding so figured maybe that was it so took a break(I've had a cut & coterize tubal ligation not that I'm sexually active). I've got sjogrens so that adds to things too but it has its flares and it's not so bad moments. |
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chamoisee
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Joined: Aug 28, 2004
Posts: 922
Location: Idaho
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Ask other women for recommendations. Nobody likes a pap smear, but they range from really painful to merely uncomfortable and embarrassing.
Ask other ladies, a lot of them...not just one or two....who they go to for pap smears and who is gentle and professional, and who to stay away from. And then when you do go, make sure to tell the doctor or midwife that this is your first pap, or that you are so scared, or that you're super sensitive to pain there, or whatever.
I've had bad experiences too, and it makes me sad to read these...especially the girl who had just been raped. It doesn't have to be that bad...and honestly, I am so sensitive that most men lose patience with me.  |
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scrulie
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Age: 40
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Location: Kent, UK
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| tigerlily wrote: | | a few years ago the surgery i was with was pestering me to have a smear test. i was extra freaked about it as i had suffered a rape a year before. i thought i would go for the appointment and explain so they would let me off. unfortunately when i did explain, traumatic enough in itself, the doctor, female if you can believe it, proceeded to tell me that i couldnt let it affect me my whole life and bullied me into letting her do it while i lay on the table and sobbed. i cycled home still sobbing and ended up crashing my bike, stumbling home all cuts and bruises. that was about 20 years ago and i never had one since. nuff said. raped by a woman with a stainless steel penis. |
That is horrific! That doctor sounds evil!!
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TrishC7
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Age: 49
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Location: Kansas City area
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| I think of it as something impersonal & temporary discomfort, sort of like getting a flu shot. There are good medical reasons for it, so if you can at all bring yourself to do it, by all means do. I've only once, over many years, had a male gyn., and I feel much more comfortable with the women. Asking for references is a terrific idea (and that applies to any kind of doc). |
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RachelLugiagirl
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Joined: Jun 14, 2006
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Location: East London, Uk.
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 7:50 am Post subject: Pain cervical smear test |
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| I've had abot 3. I've been raped so it always hurts even if they use a small speculum, twice it was by a female Doctor or nurse, no-one has ever offered to warm it up so i haven't tried that. When I cried when the man Dr did it on the same day as I had a nasty big injection for mumps and rubella was the same day I was sent for depression treatment 4 months later, he did it on a sort of bed, I was in so much stress from my male landlord at the time it did not come in time to stop me having a nervous breakdown. once i was put in stirrups in hospital to have it half-naked and that is horrible. They give it gynacologically and don't tell you they are doing it and also for an aids test. Last time a nurse tried and could not do it properly because of the pain, she told me to just tear up the letters, but you still get hassled for it. Now I have signed a form to say I will not have it unless i decide to and it is my own responsibility (I expect it says that it it was the only time i was so eager not to have the pain and hassle i signed a form i had not read through first.)As it is a test for a life-threatening condition i think there should be an alternative, blood or urine testing is a good idea they test blood for so much. I was glad to see they give some women enough consideration to do sedation, warming it up or the other alternative. I was quite happy to sample my cheek DNA with a wooden toothpick and I have eventually got used to tampons even I have to, I would have thought you'd get a perfectly good smear with them like a urine or pregnancy test which you can do in private not like having a stranger stick a knife up you. IItoo only go to Drs if I am really in pain but i am treated like a hypochodriac just because I have been to a mental hospital once and had some treatment for anxiety. They never think i have real pain, and are very rarely interested in single girls who have not had children. Yet a friend who has had children has had pain with it. We should fight for our rights. Thank you , I did not know there was a women's discussion group as it is so far down the page in the forums. |
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Age1600
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Joined: Apr 23, 2007
Age: 23
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Location: New Jersey
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Yea I agree with most of you that you should get the test done, but I'm afraid, I won't go to anybody else besides a guy a doctor, and I have been raped so many times also. I lost my virginity at the age of 15 due to rape, and when I was 7 I was molested, and between then and now, I've been sexually abused so much, seems like I'm always the victim, anyways, I'm afraid because everytime somebody just touches me, and I haven't really hung with them over a couple of months, like some stranger touching me I freak out. I become very violent, and crazy, and start panicking and shaking, and start siezing, its bad. I know I need it, I just don't know how I could ever do it unless I'm put out. |
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rosered
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Age1600 wrote: | | Yea I agree with most of you that you should get the test done, but I'm afraid, I won't go to anybody else besides a guy a doctor, and I have been raped so many times also. I lost my virginity at the age of 15 due to rape, and when I was 7 I was molested, and between then and now, I've been sexually abused so much, seems like I'm always the victim, anyways, I'm afraid because everytime somebody just touches me, and I haven't really hung with them over a couple of months, like some stranger touching me I freak out. I become very violent, and crazy, and start panicking and shaking, and start siezing, its bad. I know I need it, I just don't know how I could ever do it unless I'm put out. |
I'm sorry you hear you have had such terrible experiences, i won't pretend to know how you feel but what i will say is a good doctor will be kind, patient and be willing to listen to your fears over the pap or anything else you choose to discuss. As for other people and dealing with them, have you ever considered counselling? I gave it a go after some experiences i had, and i think it is worth a try. Take care.
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Age1600
Bonita-Azul
Joined: Apr 23, 2007
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Location: New Jersey
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| rosered wrote: | | Age1600 wrote: | | Yea I agree with most of you that you should get the test done, but I'm afraid, I won't go to anybody else besides a guy a doctor, and I have been raped so many times also. I lost my virginity at the age of 15 due to rape, and when I was 7 I was molested, and between then and now, I've been sexually abused so much, seems like I'm always the victim, anyways, I'm afraid because everytime somebody just touches me, and I haven't really hung with them over a couple of months, like some stranger touching me I freak out. I become very violent, and crazy, and start panicking and shaking, and start siezing, its bad. I know I need it, I just don't know how I could ever do it unless I'm put out. |
I'm sorry you hear you have had such terrible experiences, i won't pretend to know how you feel but what i will say is a good doctor will be kind, patient and be willing to listen to your fears over the pap or anything else you choose to discuss. As for other people and dealing with them, have you ever considered counselling? I gave it a go after some experiences i had, and i think it is worth a try. Take care.
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Thanks, I did go to counselling, nothing ever helps me, I kinda just learned to put it in the back of my brain, just like everything else I experience, and I have a boyfriend now that actually works with me so that kind of helps, and I never ever in my life ever thought I could get a guy who would work with my past experiences and my autism. I think I just got extremely lucky. |
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chamoisee
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Posts: 922
Location: Idaho
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Oh- that reminds me: another thign that does help is to have your boyfriend or husband or lover or whatever come in with you. It's surprising how much easier it is to relax to be handled there if your mate is there holding you (upper body) and talkig to you soothingly.
I think a lot of the problem is the damned speculum! The thing isn't shaped like a penis, it feels very sharp, like a knife, and then they have to crank that sucker open just as wide as they can....they really need to redesign it.
I artificially inseminate goats, and we have to use a speculum for that. Their speculum is smaller in diameter, it is more penis shaped, it has a nice rounded plastic edge, it is possible to sterilize it...and with this tool I have to look through it and manipulate a straw of semen *through* the doe goat's cervix, so I know that it is big enough to just look through and take a little swab. I have been sorely tempted to ask them if I can please bring my own speculum, LOL. |
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Catster2
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Joined: Jan 25, 2007
Age: 28
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 10:03 am Post subject: |
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| I haven't had one because it is so embarrassing to have someone (girl or guy) sticking things up there. When I was a teen I went to the doc with my mum because of thrush and with mum in the room (although not looking) the man doc looked up there. Since then it has made it even more embarrassing and i think of that everytime I decide I should get one done. BTW I am 27 but not sexually active. |
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KimJ
Legend in my own mind
Joined: Jun 11, 2006
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Location: Arizona
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It depends on the doctors who do it. I go against the grain and dislike female doctors. They've all been snotty and the pap is always painful. When I was 10 I had a pap from my pediatrician and that was painful. Then a gynecologist when I was 11 and 13 and 18. ( I had menstrual problems)
My OB/Gyn was fine when I was pregnant. I waited for 7 years for my next and I had pre-cancerous lesions from the HPV virus. I had to have an operation for it to be removed-both the biopsy and surgery were very painful. |
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